Staiger Ineligible!

mwitt

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Could he still play in the exhibition games? Jiri played in them last year, even though he was suspended.
 

price26

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There are a couple facebook groups, I joined the one "Save Lucca from the NCAA".

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If anyone is a student, they should join to show support for Lucca and hopefully reiterate how, even if the NCAA screws us over on this, we are behind him 100% and show how much we care about having him here.
 

price26

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Also, has anyone who has e-mailed anyone, particularly JP or the Clearinghouse, received an actual response?
 

jbhtexas

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I'd be surprised if ISU is given any relief. However, maybe if a couple of the national sports columnists / talk show hosts give it some attention, the NCAA might be shamed into a more equitable, less draconian approach to this case.

The bigger issue is the NCAA itself. The underlying goal of this organization has become to make money. Justly governing college athletics is a secondary, maybe even tertiary concern. Anytime somebody starts snooping around into all the NCAA profits (like Congress was last year, threatening the tax-exepmt status of the NCAA), the NCAA adopts a couple of new feel-good policies to give the impression that they are concerned about fairness in college athletics, and then subsequently slams a few less-iconic schools to show those snooping around that the NCAA means business when it comes to "fairness".

Unfortunately, this situation is unlikely to change. The member schools are all addicted to the revenue, so there is going to be no mass protest by them. A few schools, like ISU and WSU, will be expected to "take one for the team". The only hope for improvement will be outside organizations shaming the NCAA into treating all schools fairly, or Congress threatening the NCAA's tax-exempt status until all schools are treated fairly.
 

Kyle

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There are a couple facebook groups, I joined the one "Save Lucca from the NCAA".

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If anyone is a student, they should join to show support for Lucca and hopefully reiterate how, even if the NCAA screws us over on this, we are behind him 100% and show how much we care about having him here.
I have joined and sent out my invites to join. Not really sure it will do much good, but it might help spread the word. I kinda figure the more people that get a little pissed off about it the better.
 

4VR4CY

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I would rather e-mail, sign a petition, fax the NCAA, etc. then do nothing but wait. Fire up the rational e-mails/letters and send them. :yes:

Doing nothing will get us no where.
 
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jahfg

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I think it would be really beneficial to get ESPN all over this situation. If this rule prevents several players from playing, this could be a national story. It would be a great topic on PTI, ATH, Outside the Lines, E:60, etc. The NCAA needs to be shamed into changing the rule because it is absolutely embarassing and ridiculous. If this got to the mainstream media, the NCAA would be forced to reexamine the rule.
 

LivntheCyLife

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Just so I understand the NCAA's argument and everybody e-mailing and calling people can have an informed response.

As I understand it, Lucca is not being ruled ineligible because of his teammates wrong-doing for receiving illegal benefits or under the table compensation.

The question is whether the team's payments (which nobody is denying were made) to these other players was too much for the team to maintain an amateur status. For example, a US player could not maintain his eligibility after playing for the Iowa Energy or some other pro team even if he's not getting paid himself. But the gray area here is whether this team that Lucca played for was an amateur or professional team.
 

A-town Cy

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McDermott should show up at the NCAA clearinghouse and threaten to go ape-**** crazy. That should get their attention, maybe he can get Sanderson and Chizik to back him.

They could like something like this... (props to wolverine68)
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cycloneace55

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Well I sent the following to the NCAA for all the good it will do. The NCAA is a joke bent on making millions on the sweat and hardwork of the student athlete. Not that you didn't already know that.

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NCAA,

First of all I would like to say how disappointed I am with the NCAA's decision concerning Iowa State University's Lucca Staiger. His loss of a year's eligibility seems both ludicrous and excessive considering the rule he is being punished under was not in effect when the alleged offense occurred. Its decisions and ruling like this that make the NCAA look like a backwards and biased organization that fails to uphold the ideals that it claims to promote.

From the NCAA website - Our Mission. Core Values:

"An inclusive culture that fosters equitable participation for student-athletes and career opportunities for coaches and administrators from diverse backgrounds."

It appears that the actions of the NCAA don't match the rhetoric that has been posted on the website. Rules like this seem to be in place to make it more difficult for foreign born players to bring their skills and hope for an education to the United States of America.

What's most offensive about this decision is the lack of culpability on the part of Staiger. Regardless of the NCAA decisions or lack of action following what will sure to be an outcry from Cyclone fans everywhere I have found a new low in the respect I have for the NCAA as an organization dedicated to fair competition in college athletics.
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Kyle

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I think it would be really beneficial to get ESPN all over this situation. If this rule prevents several players from playing, this could be a national story. It would be a great topic on PTI, ATH, Outside the Lines, E:60, etc. The NCAA needs to be shamed into changing the rule because it is absolutely embarassing and ridiculous. If this got to the mainstream media, the NCAA would be forced to reexamine the rule.
Agreed. There have been several links earlier in this thread for media outlets. I've sent the suggestion to Outside the Lines and ESPN more generally. I think that the more emails they get the more interest they will think there is in the story, and thus be more likely to make a story out of it.
 

Wesley

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Just so I understand the NCAA's argument and everybody e-mailing and calling people can have an informed response.

As I understand it, Lucca is not being ruled ineligible because of his teammates wrong-doing for receiving illegal benefits or under the table compensation.

The question is whether the team's payments (which nobody is denying were made) to these other players was too much for the team to maintain an amateur status. For example, a US player could not maintain his eligibility after playing for the Iowa Energy or some other pro team even if he's not getting paid himself. But the gray area here is whether this team that Lucca played for was an amateur or professional team.


And what is an amateur team by European or US rules? What are the thresholdf dollars?

Another NCAA Stinkerama?:twitcy::twitcy::wub::wub::wub::wub::wacko::wacko::wacko:
 

nickwc

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I think it would be really beneficial to get ESPN all over this situation. If this rule prevents several players from playing, this could be a national story. It would be a great topic on PTI, ATH, Outside the Lines, E:60, etc. The NCAA needs to be shamed into changing the rule because it is absolutely embarassing and ridiculous. If this got to the mainstream media, the NCAA would be forced to reexamine the rule.

Problem with this is that it didn't happen to an east coast team. You can bet if it did it would be all over the news already.
 

jahfg

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Problem with this is that it didn't happen to an east coast team. You can bet if it did it would be all over the news already.


I guess that's kinda why I said this would have to happen to a few players. If only Lucca's situation is brought to their attention, nothing will be done. If it affects several programs, then there might be a story. It can't hurt to try though.
 

dbronco7sc

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Let's cut the NCAA some slack. They need to make up for allowing some players to be compensated a lot and never get suspended... by declaring innocent people ineligible... that's understandable.:unsure:
 

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