Survivor: David vs Goliath

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I wonder if Elizabeth was more annoying around camp than the edit was showing. I know a couple other players had mentioned she had know/done-it-all tendencies and it may not have been hard for the Davids to cut the fat.

I can't imagine her being even MORE annoying. We do a survivor draft with some friends, and my wife picked Elizabeth first overall. I immediately called her out for picking a goat, because Elizabeth had already showed cards as being super annoying within the first 2 episodes.
 

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I can't imagine her being even MORE annoying. We do a survivor draft with some friends, and my wife picked Elizabeth first overall. I immediately called her out for picking a goat, because Elizabeth had already showed cards as being super annoying within the first 2 episodes.

My wife and I did a survivor draft (we each chose 8 and left 4 out).

Elizabeth was 16th pick. Just made the cut above Liersa, Natalie, Pat, and Dan (we both thought Dan was dumb).
 

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Dan is going to mess his game up somehow. Showmances on Survivor always put a target on your back and gets one of them blindsided eventually. Factor in Dan now blabbed to her he has 2 idols I bet either her or him tell someone else that soon too and once that cat is out of the bag he'll get blindsided or forced to use them. Drives me nuts when people have idols and start telling others. It's an individual game, keeping an idol secret makes it more powerful than telling people IMO. Two seasons ago when Ben won he probably was the smartest player ever when it came to idols because he never told people he had them and he used them at key times and factor that in with his strong challenge play and so-so social game he probably played one of the best games of the show's existence. Knowledge is key in Survivor and that includes what you know and what you choose not to tell others that gives you an advantage.

I do miss the early seasons where you had some interesting showmances that were right out in the open and they would catch them messing around at night as it added to the viewing entertainment. Still with all the history of the show now contestants who are true fans of Survivor have to see what has worked and what not to do people still make the same fatal mistakes. It's 39 days if you make it to the end, if you like someone then hook up after the show when there isn't a million dollars at stake. I won't lie, the thought has crossed my mind before about possibly applying for the show but got a couple things working against me these days with turning 40 next year and I'd need to get in a lot better shape as it's turning into more of a younger person's game lately. Plus the odds of even getting an interview for the show are probably slim with the thousands of applicants they get too I bet. I think it would be fun but also an eye opener too because what goes on off camera and the conditions you live in plus just what the lack of food you put your body through probably plays tricks with your mind it's probably a lot tougher game to play than what it looks like on the TV cut we see 1 hour a week.
 

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Dan is going to mess his game up somehow. Showmances on Survivor always put a target on your back and gets one of them blindsided eventually. Factor in Dan now blabbed to her he has 2 idols I bet either her or him tell someone else that soon too and once that cat is out of the bag he'll get blindsided or forced to use them. Drives me nuts when people have idols and start telling others. It's an individual game, keeping an idol secret makes it more powerful than telling people IMO. Two seasons ago when Ben won he probably was the smartest player ever when it came to idols because he never told people he had them and he used them at key times and factor that in with his strong challenge play and so-so social game he probably played one of the best games of the show's existence. Knowledge is key in Survivor and that includes what you know and what you choose not to tell others that gives you an advantage.

I do miss the early seasons where you had some interesting showmances that were right out in the open and they would catch them messing around at night as it added to the viewing entertainment. Still with all the history of the show now contestants who are true fans of Survivor have to see what has worked and what not to do people still make the same fatal mistakes. It's 39 days if you make it to the end, if you like someone then hook up after the show when there isn't a million dollars at stake. I won't lie, the thought has crossed my mind before about possibly applying for the show but got a couple things working against me these days with turning 40 next year and I'd need to get in a lot better shape as it's turning into more of a younger person's game lately. Plus the odds of even getting an interview for the show are probably slim with the thousands of applicants they get too I bet. I think it would be fun but also an eye opener too because what goes on off camera and the conditions you live in plus just what the lack of food you put your body through probably plays tricks with your mind it's probably a lot tougher game to play than what it looks like on the TV cut we see 1 hour a week.
If it's like the process for The Amazing Race (and I suspect it is), you need to be at a job where you can walk away with no notice, and no specified length of time (and you're not allowed to tell them why you are leaving), just for the first two rounds of applications. Then the game itself, you're gone for the entire time win or lose. You need to be independently wealthy, self employed, in a profession (lots of lawyers on the show), a student, or a beach bum, or something along those lines. Most 9-5 jobs aren't very forgiving on those kinds of absences.
 

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Remember that there's an idol nullifier this season too. I could see that being used to take down Dan.
 
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If it's like the process for The Amazing Race (and I suspect it is), you need to be at a job where you can walk away with no notice, and no specified length of time (and you're not allowed to tell them why you are leaving), just for the first two rounds of applications. Then the game itself, you're gone for the entire time win or lose. You need to be independently wealthy, self employed, in a profession (lots of lawyers on the show), a student, or a beach bum, or something along those lines. Most 9-5 jobs aren't very forgiving on those kinds of absences.

Yeah, one of my friend's actually worked with Rory Freeman from Survivor Vanuatu in 2004. He hadn't been working that long and they told everyone he was in Arizona for training then they didn't find out until after the cast was announced that he actually was away filming the show. I would have to take paid time off just to do it because I would guess between the pre and post production of the show you are gone at least 2 months for it and like you said I even wonder how many people sacrificed their jobs just to be on the show. I work at a place where I would be worried if I could keep my job if I just took off like that, not sure if you are allowed to tell them or not why either as I would think if you could tell them it would probably help your cause and job security a little. I assume you get paid by CBS for the number of episodes you appear in plus some of them wind up getting paid for media appearances later but that is an awful lot to risk your full time job on for possibly being one of the first voted out and have nothing to come back to.
 
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Yeah, one of my friend's actually worked with Rory Freeman from Survivor Vanuatu in 2004. He hadn't been working that long and they told everyone he was in Arizona for training then they didn't find out until after the cast was announced that he actually was away filming the show. I would have to take paid time off just to do it because I would guess between the pre and post production of the show you are gone at least 2 months for it and like you said I even wonder how many people sacrificed their jobs just to be on the show. I work at a place where I would be worried if I could keep my job if I just took off like that, not sure if you are allowed to tell them or not why either as I would think if you could tell them it would probably help your cause and job security a little. I assume you get paid by CBS for the number of episodes you appear in plus some of them wind up getting paid for media appearances later but that is an awful lot to risk your full time job on for possibly being one of the first voted out and have nothing to come back to.
I probably worded that wrong - I believe you can tell your immediate supervisor, but there's a non-disclosure clause. We actually looked into it for TAR, way back in the early seasons. I probably could have gotten away with a leave of absence (and I had sufficient vacation time) but my husband would have lost his job. It simply wasn't worth it. And now that we're retired, I'm too damn decrepit to run that much. :D
 

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Angelina's time will come sooner than later. You can sense just about everyone is annoyed with her at this point and no one trusts her. Last night's tribal was great! I was hoping they would have let Angelina go unprotected without an idol, was hilarious to watch her panic and beg for that idol which if I was Dan he would have been smarter to just say "what idol? I don't have one" as she just exposed to everyone that he had at least one. Guessing had he not given her an idol she would have broke down crying right there and started throwing people under the bus.

When the idols started coming out started to wonder if all the chips were going to be put on the table with that idol that cancels another idol played possibly coming into play but the Davids played that perfectly splitting the vote and keeping that and the steal a vote advantage in play. Now that it is 6-5 that extra vote is huge, they could even things up next vote now with another blindside with that advantage.

I think right now my 2 favorite players are Nick and Christian. Nick is playing a pretty good game so far being able to play both sides while keeping on the down low just enough to keep trust with people on both original tribes. Christian is going to have a tough battle now that it's obvious he's target #1 now, will have to really get a solid alliance in place he can trust in order to go far and not sure he really has that quite yet.
 
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Do you or anyone know what happens if all votes are for people protected by idols? Is it a re-vote for anyone else not protected?

Correct. On a quick google search, a site called reality blurred summarized the lengthy rules on these types of situations and said the following:

Two hidden immunity idols played

What happens if two idols are played? Of course, all votes cast for each player holding an idol would be negated. If a third player received one ore more votes, that person would go home. However, if only the two idol-holders received votes, and those votes were cancelled, that would mean zero votes were recorded.


There is a simple solution, however, and Jeff Probst actually addressed this possibility in a video Q&A three years ago. Talking about those who’d played idols, he said:


  • “They would be immune and we would revote, and you would have to vote for somebody else.”
 
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That was epic and the reason this show still
Works. John was one of my favorites but I think even he appreciated the way he got voted out.

I freakin love survivor

He was one of my favorites too. First impression I didn't think I'd be a huge fan, but that quickly changed. One of the least sour reactions to getting voted out/blindsided that I've seen.

Enjoyed the comment at the end too where he laughs about predicting a brochacho blindside, but that it wasn't supposed to be him.
 
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He was one of my favorites too. First impression I didn't think I'd be a huge fan, but that quickly changed. One of the least sour reactions to getting voted out/blindsided that I've seen.

Enjoyed the comment at the end too where he laughs about predicting a brochacho blindside, but that it wasn't supposed to be him.


Yeah I appreciated that exit also. Big Smile and knew he got got. However, I think he is more financially secure than a lot of people. So that might have helped the response.
 

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