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I may be wrong but i think Park came to the sidelines and was basically like "Why the hell did we just have our running back throw the ball from the 11 yard line?" and Campbell said something like "Because tonight our quarterback cant get it done so we are trying everything"

Obviously that was not the conversation but i believe the "incident" happened right after that play call and it did look like Park was upset about that.
 
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Personally, I like a little fire from player and coach. Especially, at the college level. That said.. Park didn't live up to the hype tonight in front of a national audience. I think -my opinion- Park was playing for more than just a Cyclone win tonight.

All the antics on the sideline were from a player that wanted to win. I can live with that. It wasn't like he quit on his team or coach.
 
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Ther wasn't much to it. Agree that ESPN played it up.

ESPN announcers were simply awful. The only thing worse than UT's offense was ISU's offense. And the only thing worse than ISU's offense was ESPN's announcers. They didn't want to be there and they deserved even less to be there.
 
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I may be wrong but i think Park came to the sidelines and was basically like "Why the hell did we just have our running back throw the ball from the 11 yard line?" and Campbell said something like "Because tonight our quarterback cant get it done so we are trying everything"

Obviously that was not the conversation but i believe the "incident" happened right after that play call and it did look like Park was upset about that.

I think what Park wanted was the play in quicker after we got to the 11 right before that and he was pretty demonstrative in showing it. After that, it was Campbell trying to calm him down and trying to explain things to him. This wasn't even close to a blow up.
 

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Everyone was watching this game last night across the country. And we put together an epic **** show.
****, it sounds like you may have gotten your feelings hurt. It's just football. True, they came out wearing the worst uniform combination they could have possibly worn. It's also true they wore emoji stickers on their helmets. The offense couldn't find a rhythm is a true statement as well. However, the defense should give Cyclone fans some hope.

If you listened to the pregame with Campbell, he was very upfront about Texas' D bringing pressure and being the most athletic team they've faced so far. I wasn't real surprised about how much pressure they brought. I'd have to watch the game again, but I felt like the offense didn't do that bad at executing (save the interceptions), but the playcall was really what hurt them. Again, I need to watch the film.
 

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If Campbell was upset w/Park, I totally get why. Not his best performance by a landslide. I'm not as obsessed with some around the program, or even fans, w/Park's persona and attitude, and I'm even less impressed by his performance on the field as of late. Are his numbers good compared to what we've dealt with the last decade or so? Sure, but in an era where gaudy eye-popping stats are easy to come by, his are a drop in the bucket.

I'd love it if the media would stop hyping him up, stop baiting him with ridiculous interview questions, stop ooo-ing and awe-ing when he gives a good one-liner response to their ridiculous questions, and stop telling us he's the best QB since Seneca. Clearly it has inflated his ego, as we saw last night and as another poster pointed out in this thread, he was playing for more than the W and more than for ISU last night.

If he'd just get a haircut and stop letting the media shape and define him, he's still got a shot at being a decent QB for us. But his current trajectory is looking more Jantz than Seneca imho.
 

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If Campbell was upset w/Park, I totally get why. Not his best performance by a landslide. I'm not as obsessed with some around the program, or even fans, w/Park's persona and attitude, and I'm even less impressed by his performance on the field as of late. Are his numbers good compared to what we've dealt with the last decade or so? Sure, but in an era where gaudy eye-popping stats are easy to come by, his are a drop in the bucket.

I'd love it if the media would stop hyping him up, stop baiting him with ridiculous interview questions, stop ooo-ing and awe-ing when he gives a good one-liner response to their ridiculous questions, and stop telling us he's the best QB since Seneca. Clearly it has inflated his ego, as we saw last night and as another poster pointed out in this thread, he was playing for more than the W and more than for ISU last night.

If he'd just get a haircut and stop letting the media shape and define him, he's still got a shot at being a decent QB for us. But his current trajectory is looking more Jantz than Seneca imho.

Sound like you're a little more invested in Park than most. I have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the interview questions, his persona, one-liners, ooing and aweing. He has a lot of talent. It's easy to watch him and see he's well ahead of any QB we've had since Seneca. He's still very inexperienced. He's a confident guy that wants to make plays. I didn't see anything last night that made me think he was trying to show out. This was just the first game where he got a lot of pressure.

He has unorthadox style. He's still immature. But he doesn't strike me as a super cocky guy. He looks like he's having fun. Last night was the first time he saw the other side of things.
 

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I'd be pissed if I was Campbell at Park's play over last couple weeks. The play in reference, no big deal.
So other than last night and the freak pick to Iowa what over the last few weeks makes you think that
 

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Sound like you're a little more invested in Park than most. I have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the interview questions, his persona, one-liners, ooing and aweing. He has a lot of talent. It's easy to watch him and see he's well ahead of any QB we've had since Seneca. He's still very inexperienced. He's a confident guy that wants to make plays. I didn't see anything last night that made me think he was trying to show out. This was just the first game where he got a lot of pressure.

He has unorthadox style. He's still immature. But he doesn't strike me as a super cocky guy. He looks like he's having fun. Last night was the first time he saw the other side of things.
I'd take Meyer or Arnaud as of this moment in time. But I agree, he still young, immature, and has time to prove me wrong. Jantz was confident and wanted to make plays. Also threw a lot of careless, wounded-duck Ints like Park did last night.

What confuses me most, (and I haven't gone back and watched) is why we weren't able to exploit their constant pressure with short passes to the flats, or why our WR's who are so great, couldn't beat their one-on-one coverage since Texas was sending 7 if not 8 rushers on every passing down? When you get blitzed like that, someone has to be running around virtually unguarded, am I wrong? Either a)somehow nobody was open or b)Park wasn't finding them. Truly great QB's avoid pressure and play through it, finding the open person. Freaking nate stanley was great doing that against us.
 
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I'd take Meyer or Arnaud as of this moment in time. But I agree, he still young, immature, and has time to prove me wrong. Jantz was confident and wanted to make plays. Also threw a lot of careless, wounded-duck Ints like Park did last night.

What confuses me most, (and I haven't gone back and watched) is why we weren't able to exploit their constant pressure with short passes to the flats, or why our WR's who are so great, couldn't beat their one-on-one coverage since Texas was sending 7 if not 8 rushers on every passing down? When you get blitzed like that, someone has to be running around virtually unguarded, am I wrong? Either a)somehow nobody was open or b)Park wasn't finding them. Truly great QB's avoid pressure and play through it, finding the open person. Freaking nate stanley was great doing that against us.

Meyer, sure. But not Arnaud.

Nate Stanley did not get pressured by us. They picked up our blitzes every time.

Our QB was bad last night, but our offensive coaching was worse. I would like to see when Park runs out of the pocket, I wish he would reset his feet instead of continuing to run to the sideline. He had plenty of time last night to do this but instead would either run out of bounds or force a bad pass on the run. I love that he keeps his eyes downfield, but he has to mix in a few scrambles when he has 10 yards in front of him. He's very scared to get hit.
 
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If Campbell was upset w/Park, I totally get why. Not his best performance by a landslide. I'm not as obsessed with some around the program, or even fans, w/Park's persona and attitude, and I'm even less impressed by his performance on the field as of late. Are his numbers good compared to what we've dealt with the last decade or so? Sure, but in an era where gaudy eye-popping stats are easy to come by, his are a drop in the bucket.

I'd love it if the media would stop hyping him up, stop baiting him with ridiculous interview questions, stop ooo-ing and awe-ing when he gives a good one-liner response to their ridiculous questions, and stop telling us he's the best QB since Seneca. Clearly it has inflated his ego, as we saw last night and as another poster pointed out in this thread, he was playing for more than the W and more than for ISU last night.

If he'd just get a haircut and stop letting the media shape and define him, he's still got a shot at being a decent QB for us. But his current trajectory is looking more Jantz than Seneca imho.
Yep. If he gets a haircut he will be a batter QB... JFC
 
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Meyer, sure. But not Arnaud.

Nate Stanley did not get pressured by us. They picked up our blitzes every time.

Our QB was bad last night, but our offensive coaching was worse. I would like to see when Park runs out of the pocket, I wish he would reset his feet instead of continuing to run to the sideline. He had plenty of time last night to do this but instead would either run out of bounds or force a bad pass on the run. I love that he keeps his eyes downfield, but he has to mix in a few scrambles when he has 10 yards in front of him. He's very scared to get hit.
They picked up our blitz, but even when we would get close to taking him down, he'd have a TE or FB in the flat just waiting for the checkdown pass. Frustrating to me that Iowa State doesn't have someone open like that when our QB gets hurried. That's all I'm saying.
 

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Sound like you're a little more invested in Park than most. I have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the interview questions, his persona, one-liners, ooing and aweing. He has a lot of talent. It's easy to watch him and see he's well ahead of any QB we've had since Seneca. He's still very inexperienced. He's a confident guy that wants to make plays. I didn't see anything last night that made me think he was trying to show out. This was just the first game where he got a lot of pressure.

He has unorthadox style. He's still immature. But he doesn't strike me as a super cocky guy. He looks like he's having fun. Last night was the first time he saw the other side of things.
He comes across as really cocky in my eyes. If you're gonna talk the talk, you better walk the walk and not let adversity get to you and that's what happened to him last night. I understand he has high expectations for himself, but if you are a captain of any team, you cannot let emotions get to you and I feel he did that last night.
 
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