The Four Major U.S. Cities

THE Four U.S. Cities

  • New York City

    Votes: 315 99.4%
  • Chicago

    Votes: 306 96.5%
  • Los Angeles

    Votes: 312 98.4%
  • Atlanta

    Votes: 46 14.5%
  • Miami

    Votes: 29 9.1%
  • Houston

    Votes: 97 30.6%
  • San Francisco

    Votes: 37 11.7%
  • Dallas

    Votes: 109 34.4%
  • Indianapolis

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Minneapolis

    Votes: 2 0.6%

  • Total voters
    317

Shawker

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All subjective to where your mind first goes. Population, cultural impact, international perception, historical/political importance.

My mind immediately went to “if I was in another country and asked the question what would they say?”

NYC
LA
Chicago
Miami

I don’t think there is a clear cut answer to #4.
This was my thinking as well and I feel like #4 would be Miami, Las Vegas or DC.
 

CySanka3

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My prompt to ChatGPT: "What are the 4 most significant cities in the United States, accounting for population, economic status, cultural contribution and general world wide recognition?"

1) NYC
2) LA
3) Chicago
4) SF

Honorable Mentions: DC, Miami, Houston, Atlanta.
 

HFCS

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My prompt to ChatGPT: "What are the 4 most significant cities in the United States, accounting for population, economic status, cultural contribution and general world wide recognition?"

1) NYC
2) LA
3) Chicago
4) SF

Honorable Mentions: DC, Miami, Houston, Atlanta.

Can't argue with that list. It's probably the order I'd have said or close.
 

simply1

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My prompt to ChatGPT: "What are the 4 most significant cities in the United States, accounting for population, economic status, cultural contribution and general world wide recognition?"

1) NYC
2) LA
3) Chicago
4) SF

Honorable Mentions: DC, Miami, Houston, Atlanta.
Claude agrees on top 5

The choice between San Francisco and D.C. for fourth place depends on whether you weight technological/economic innovation more heavily (San Francisco) or political power and international diplomatic recognition (Washington D.C.). Both have outsized global influence relative to their populations.
Miami, Boston, and Seattle would round out the next tier, each strong in different aspects of your criteria but not quite matching the comprehensive significance of these top four.
 

Buster28

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I don't know if anyone listed the largest American CSAs (Consolidated Statistical Areas - lumps together adjoining metros that rely upon one another for economics, etc.), but here's the top 10 as of 2024:

1) New York-Newark 22,342,000
2) Los Angeles-Long Beach 18,507,000
3) Washington, DC-Baltimore-Arlington 10,237,000
4) Chicago-Naperville 9,941,000
5) San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 9,164,000
6) Dallas-Fort Worth 8,909,000
7) Boston-Worcester-Providence 8,493,000
8) Houston-Pasadena 7,996,000
9) Philadelphia-Reading-Camden 7,490,000
10) Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County (AL)-Sandy Springs 7,340,000

Of these, DFW is the only one that has TWO individual cities each with over 1,000,000. There are currently 62 CSAs with over 1,000,000 people in the U.S. as of this estimation. Des Moines is ranked at 65 with 939,000. Not relevant, but interesting.
 
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My prompt to ChatGPT: "What are the 4 most significant cities in the United States, accounting for population, economic status, cultural contribution and general world wide recognition?"

1) NYC
2) LA
3) Chicago
4) SF

Honorable Mentions: DC, Miami, Houston, Atlanta.
The city of San Francisco has fallen so hard though…it almost doesn’t deserve to the face of that metro. Is there much difference between San Francisco proper and Detroit? I would almost give Nashville a nod over San Francisco…and I do not enjoy Nashville.

I went with Dallas because DFW metro is the largest and I feel it’s somewhat on the rise. I strongly considered Atlanta, Miami, and even Houston (though only for pure population purposes). While Dallas is severely lacking in culture, they are the metro I thought could possibly next support 2 teams in a major sport.
 

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Total disclosure - my 4th pick was Miami. Probably 'cuz I've been binge-watching "Burn Notice" recently - really solid series.
 

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The city of San Francisco has fallen so hard though…it almost doesn’t deserve to the face of that metro. Is there much difference between San Francisco proper and Detroit? I would almost give Nashville a nod over San Francisco…and I do not enjoy Nashville.

I went with Dallas because DFW metro is the largest and I feel it’s somewhat on the rise. I strongly considered Atlanta, Miami, and even Houston (though only for pure population purposes). While Dallas is severely lacking in culture, they are the metro I thought could possibly next support 2 teams in a major sport.
The two that dumbed this have to be making this a political thing…which it is not. I can’t believe they have physically been in San Francisco in the last year. I have. Trust me…it is not the same as it used to be. Not to mention they no longer have a baseball team in that metro area.

If they have other reasons for dumbing my comment, I would love to hear them.
 
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My prompt to ChatGPT: "What are the 4 most significant cities in the United States, accounting for population, economic status, cultural contribution and general world wide recognition?"

1) NYC
2) LA
3) Chicago
4) SF

Honorable Mentions: DC, Miami, Houston, Atlanta.

Without context these would be my Top 4 important cities. Drop LA and add Boston and you’d have my 4 favorite cities (unordered).
 

Buster28

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The two that dumbed this have to be making this a political thing…which it is not. I can’t believe they have physically been in San Francisco in the last year. I have. Trust me…it is not the same as it used to be. Not to mention they no longer have a baseball team in that metro area.

If they have other reasons for dumbing my comment, I would love to hear them.
The Giants would like a word... :cool:

Also, San Francisco is technically the "second city" of the Bay Area, as listed in the CSA/metro names. San Jose is much larger than SF and has been for some time, the criteria for which city comes first in a CSA name.
 

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The Giants would like a word... :cool:

Also, San Francisco is technically the "second city" of the Bay Area, as listed in the CSA/metro names. San Jose is much larger than SF and has been for some time, the criteria for which city comes first in a CSA name.
Oh derp - that’s hilarious for a couple reasons. 1. I’ve actually been to that stadium (not to see a game…did see one in Oakland…but was there once). 2. After I posted about my thoughts on a metro that could best support two teams, I did a search to see what others thought, and I saw multiple posts saying San Francisco/Oakland would soon be the largest without a team…so evidently I’m not the only one who forgot about the Giants.

Thank you regarding the San Jose thing…that makes some sense, because San Francisco should be avoided. The wharf area is still decent. The Ghirardelli area is actually better than ever. The rest of the city was just sad. There were no homeless people…it wasn’t gross. It was just a broken down has been. There were almost no stores in the Union Square area…so few people on the way up Nob Hill. The cable cars now rarely come by. I didn’t see young professionals riding their bikes up those crazy hills with one pant leg lifted above the knee to keep it from getting caught in the bike’s mechanics. That city has completely lost its joy and vibrancy.
 
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What am I missing about Dallas? I worked there for a week 10 years ago and downtown had comparable activity to Des Moines, at times I felt I was in a sci fi movie where all the people were mysteriously gone. Downtown LA is the crappiest part of LA but at least there’s a ton going on, it’s not just empty.

I’m biased towards Chicago and LA having only lived there decades since ISU. NYC was exactly as I expected on visits, SF and Seattle destroyed my expectations in a good way. DC was more fun than expected even ignoring historical/capitol stuff. Miami’s not my thing but I get why some really like it. Even Minneapolis impresses me in a way. Dallas is the only “major” US city I visited and came away pretty disappointed and confused as to why it’s a big deal.
I’m with you on Dallas. Went there several years ago and it’s fine. Obviously you have each of the four major pro sports leagues represented, but otherwise it was just a **** ton of people and urban sprawl. I found it really uninteresting.