Well then, it may be the best yet, but it does not cut it. Steele will look like bret running for his life on most plays.
The Offensive Line
- Thread starter JUKEBOX
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They got embarassed by UNI, it's going to be worse next week. Watching a DE from UNI beat a double team on a three man rush for a sack, brings back memories of the Austin Flynn year.
loosing a guy from your OL is the most disruptive things that can happen to a team short of loosing your starting QB. ISU lost two guy, their best two guys plus had a new center making the blocking calls. I remember last year one of Iowa's starting OL went down and all of a sudden teams were flying through and pressuring the QB, and that is one guy from a team that is historically very deep at OL. CPR has stated several time that he thinks the OL are good, so I am not going to disagree with him. It looked like the biggest factor for the poor performace was communication and working as a unit.
Two points we're missing:
1. With a 3 man rush your covering 5 offensive guys with 8 defenders. No one will be open. QB should run. That doesn't mean the O-line wasn't blocking. They gave up 1 sack all night!!! Just about every team in the country will take that.
2. They were playing zone coverage all night. We should have been throwing to the TE more in the middle of the field and running the option not the zone read.
Agree. Plus, the offense dominated the defense in every scrimmage during fall camp. If the OL is as bad as many are saying, how bad then is our defense?
Im curious to find out how bad KO is hurt.
I'll definitely be interested in reading the Doc Spot this week. Sounds like we have some significant injuries.
I hate injuries. A team like Iowa State cant afford them!
I'll definitely be interested in reading the Doc Spot this week. Sounds like we have some significant injuries.
I hate injuries. A team like Iowa State cant afford them!
A few thoughts after I re-watched it today, I don't feel near as bad about it actually.
When we scored the two TD's we had two red shirt freshmen, a red shirt sophomore and two red shirt juniors out there on the o line. That is just a lot to overcome and you had two NFL guys Hicks and KO on the sideline. If we have to go with that group against Iowa we have no chance.
Whoever the hell 43 is for UNI was unblock able, why the hell isn't he playing here? I don't care how small he is, he owned us all night.
Thought on defense Jake McD did some good things. Willie Scott also.
John Neal did a good job considering he was out of postion, he is a hell of a football player and will be missed.
Thought the secondary did a good job for the most part although it was hard to tell on Clone Zone. Jeremy Reeves really does a good job and LJ looked like he really played well.
Josh Lentz does not get enough credit, we need more guys like that. Can't have enough of em. Almost single handily won the game for us.
Lentz is a really good receiver, Horne seems like he will help, but we have GOT to start making some plays out there, so many dropped balls, alligator arms. We need help at receiver.
I like Steele, I think he can be a good one, he pulls it down too early sometimes and is a little scared to stay in the pocket, but he was getting killed out there so hard to make any judgement on that. I like him and thought he did a good job, good to get game one out of the way.
When we scored the two TD's we had two red shirt freshmen, a red shirt sophomore and two red shirt juniors out there on the o line. That is just a lot to overcome and you had two NFL guys Hicks and KO on the sideline. If we have to go with that group against Iowa we have no chance.
Whoever the hell 43 is for UNI was unblock able, why the hell isn't he playing here? I don't care how small he is, he owned us all night.
Thought on defense Jake McD did some good things. Willie Scott also.
John Neal did a good job considering he was out of postion, he is a hell of a football player and will be missed.
Thought the secondary did a good job for the most part although it was hard to tell on Clone Zone. Jeremy Reeves really does a good job and LJ looked like he really played well.
Josh Lentz does not get enough credit, we need more guys like that. Can't have enough of em. Almost single handily won the game for us.
Lentz is a really good receiver, Horne seems like he will help, but we have GOT to start making some plays out there, so many dropped balls, alligator arms. We need help at receiver.
I like Steele, I think he can be a good one, he pulls it down too early sometimes and is a little scared to stay in the pocket, but he was getting killed out there so hard to make any judgement on that. I like him and thought he did a good job, good to get game one out of the way.
I don't know, we turned it over twice in the redzone. Had they won I would have said we lost the game. We played as bad as I think we could have and won. That wouldn't have happened in previous years. UNI, IMO is likely a better football team than Kansas and maybe a couple other BCS teams. It's still UNI, but a good UNI. That said, we will get slaughtered next week if there isn't improvement by both lines.
Gonna be hard unless the NCAA lets CPR head out and grab a couple more recruits before the game.
I hate to point out how horrible certain players did, but it is very easy to see when an OL plays bad, and Brayden Burris played about as bad as an OL can play. He was getting knocked back 3-4 yards on every play on pass protection, if not more. And he wasnt just giving ground and keeping himself between the def and the qb, he was getting whipped.
At least he was making contact with his man, Tuftee wasn't even touching his guy on multiple plays in the fourth quarter. Just ran directly by him unabated to the QB.
Okay okay okay - the OL played poorly that was easy to see....inexperience, missing half your starting line and a redshirt freshman out there leading the troops....
But i said this before this game and i will say it again...before we start pointing out who was horrible and who did this or that, maybe we should also point out that team had 7 seniors that wrecked havic on us..their entire front 7 is seniors - they should be good especially going against our youngsters!!!!
I think this group will have a great week of preperations and WILL perform better against an Iowa front that is not as good as the UNI group. Individually Iowa may have a few better players, but, UNI as a group was rated in the Top 10 last year in rush defense and it showed why against us....
If we perform as badly next week and have 4 turnovers, you can stick a fork in us we will be done!!!!
But i said this before this game and i will say it again...before we start pointing out who was horrible and who did this or that, maybe we should also point out that team had 7 seniors that wrecked havic on us..their entire front 7 is seniors - they should be good especially going against our youngsters!!!!
I think this group will have a great week of preperations and WILL perform better against an Iowa front that is not as good as the UNI group. Individually Iowa may have a few better players, but, UNI as a group was rated in the Top 10 last year in rush defense and it showed why against us....
If we perform as badly next week and have 4 turnovers, you can stick a fork in us we will be done!!!!
Have you watched Iowa's team the last ten years? Offensive lines, especially offensive lines with three new guys who are also RS freshmen or sophomores can improve a lot. I have a feeling that if you put Hicks and KO we will improve. I also think they will improve based on just getting some experience.
Very true. Getting two NFL caliber linemen in your line back can make a huge difference. We need those guys back, and for them to play much much much better than they have vs Iowa in the past2 years.
We will improve over the year... but need drastic improvement in the next 5 days.
Game Plan for Next Week
1. Tighten up the splits a bit
2. Give KO a shot of that Varsity Blues Stuff
3. Let Farniok know making the calls is only part of his job
4. Hold Mike Daniels
I think that it was just a bad combination of poor matchups , injuries/suspensions, and inexperience. They'll look a lot better.
1. Tighten up the splits a bit
2. Give KO a shot of that Varsity Blues Stuff
3. Let Farniok know making the calls is only part of his job
4. Hold Mike Daniels
I think that it was just a bad combination of poor matchups , injuries/suspensions, and inexperience. They'll look a lot better.
Missing Hicks really hurt but some people in this thread keep mentioning hims as an "NFL caliber lineman!?" Where is that coming from? I've never heard him mentioned once as that good.
