The one and done rule?

cyclone22

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How is it their fault? It's not their rule. Should they deny entry to any player projected to be one and done? Assuming the NBA rule does not change, what should the NCAA do to fix this situation?

Well obv continue to urge the NBA/players association to change the rules. How bout have some kind of NCAA/NBA policy where if you get an academic scholarship then you are required to go to school for at least 2 years or otherwise you have to wait a year to go to NBA after dropping out of college.

Its just irritating to see these colleges using these guys as ways to take money and taking FREE SCHOOL away from deserving student athletes who are playing basketball and actually going pro in something other than sports.
 

BloodyBuddy

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I don't get why people think that Calipari is changing how things work in college basketball. Truth is a handful of teams usually get the top talent every year regardless. For every top recruit that turns into freak there is someone that is a bust. I for one am Happy that Kentucky loses everyone. If these kids had to come back, chances are they would repeat as champs. As a fan of a team that is not KY, this is good for me if they leave.

The reason we have more upsets than ever in the tourney the last few years is because of the one and done rule. You get an experienced mid-major against a bunch of one and done's and anything can happen.

Truth is Kentucky landed a freak in Anthony Davis, no one can replace that kid, not even the number one recruit in the country. It is gonna be hard for Calipari to coach up the next batch of kids to achieve this same level of success.

So I am happy for the one and done rule. If there are less dynasties in College BB, I feel ISU has a better chance to make deep tourney runs once in a while.
 

KMAC_ATTACK

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Imo - i think it should mirror the NFL rule...similar reasons....rarely are these kids truly ready to compete with the grown men and instead sit the bench.

See below ruling by NCAA - NFL and courts...

The NFL Eligibility Requirements

NFL rule requires a player to either be out of high school for three
years or have finished three college football seasons before joining the
league. (Lupica, M. 2004) The NFL is the only major professional sport
that prohibits the drafting of players who have not completed three college
seasons or who are not three years removed from high school graduation
(Gehring, 2004; Nieporent 2004). The NFL claims that this rule is in the
athlete's best interest. The NFL argues that this rule protects player’s
physical safety. However, the NFL and the NCAA benefit by capitalizing
on amateur athletes
 

BloodyBuddy

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Imo - i think it should mirror the NFL rule...similar reasons....rarely are these kids truly ready to compete with the grown men and instead sit the bench.

See below ruling by NCAA - NFL and courts...

The NFL Eligibility Requirements

NFL rule requires a player to either be out of high school for three
years or have finished three college football seasons before joining the
league. (Lupica, M. 2004) The NFL is the only major professional sport
that prohibits the drafting of players who have not completed three college
seasons or who are not three years removed from high school graduation
(Gehring, 2004; Nieporent 2004). The NFL claims that this rule is in the
athlete's best interest. The NFL argues that this rule protects player’s
physical safety. However, the NFL and the NCAA benefit by capitalizing
on amateur athletes

These guys are not putting their bodies in Jeopardy like the NFL. If you can shoot, you can play against the men in the NBA. I think the rule is fine as it is. I would actually like them to go back and let players go to the draft out of High School.
 

BloodyBuddy

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The entire concept of the student athlete is a joke, and the NCAA is delusional.

That is all.

I agree with this. If they want to improve things, then the NCAA needs to do something to make sure that these kids are up to par on the Academics.

Maybe some standardized testing, more oversight, or change the APR to penalize schools for one & done's more.
 

letsCYber

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Well at least the Kentucky players are getting paid in college.. I always feel bad for the potential pros that aren't.
 

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I don't get why people think that Calipari is changing how things work in college basketball. Truth is a handful of teams usually get the top talent every year regardless. For every top recruit that turns into freak there is someone that is a bust. I for one am Happy that Kentucky loses everyone. If these kids had to come back, chances are they would repeat as champs. As a fan of a team that is not KY, this is good for me if they leave.

The reason we have more upsets than ever in the tourney the last few years is because of the one and done rule. You get an experienced mid-major against a bunch of one and done's and anything can happen.

Truth is Kentucky landed a freak in Anthony Davis, no one can replace that kid, not even the number one recruit in the country. It is gonna be hard for Calipari to coach up the next batch of kids to achieve this same level of success.

So I am happy for the one and done rule. If there are less dynasties in College BB, I feel ISU has a better chance to make deep tourney runs once in a while.
If Nerlens Noel is as good a defender as the hype around him than I would say he could replace Davis's defensive production. Noel's hair might even be able to start a similar craze that Davis's brow made too.
 

daniel22

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do you think the one a done rule would help teams like Iowa Iowa state and some of the mid majors? while we have experienced players and a roster that isn't turned over all the tine, maybe we can compete with some of the better teams in college basketball
 

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As much as I think he was just saying to try and shut up his critics, I think Calipari really does have the right idea on how to approach "fixing" the one and done situation. You've got to monetize it for the players. Why would the player's association ever agree to additional arbitrary years in college requirement? To do a favor for the NCAA or protect owner's from "having" to take risks on immature kids? That's not going to happen. If you moved the draft declaration deadline back out and added in extra money for years spent in college or shortened rookie contract lengths for guys that spent more time in school, you'd at least make some guys slow down and think about it. The Anthony Davis types would still be gone after one-year (or maybe straight of high school again), but that next level down of players, you'd see a lot more stay.


How much are you going to play college players? To match the NBA you will have to give them a few mil. If college BB players can afford a body of tattoos they can afford not to get paid in college.

The rule is good for players that are not ready for the NBA but dont know it. It also helps at keeping NBA scouts and agents out of HS BB. The NBA does have a right to set player guidelines.
 

Cydkar

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The NBA absolutely does not want to scout HS players so you will never see players go straight from HS to the NBA.

Best solution IMO is that all players must spend a year in D-League or play overseas for a year prior to being eligible to play in the NBA if they don't spend at least 3 years in college.

I'll bet you.
 

awd4cy

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The NBA absolutely does not want to scout HS players so you will never see players go straight from HS to the NBA.

Best solution IMO is that all players must spend a year in D-League or play overseas for a year prior to being eligible to play in the NBA if they don't spend at least 3 years in college.
Why should they have to play in college for 3 years if they don't want to?
 

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