*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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EXACTLY! If you were a baseball team, and were drafting teams for your division, who do you invite? The whole AL East (murderer's row), or the AL West (only 4 teams instead of 5-6 and lesser opponents).
I don't understand why you'd want all the toughest teams in the same conference and more teams in one conference than the others. If you're in the AL west, you have to beat 3 teams. But if you added 2 teams to the AL East, you'd have 7 teams and it'd be impossible to get out of.
If you're OU and go to the PAC, either you play 1 game in Cali every year with the rest of the PAC east, or you go to a pod system and have to top 15 teams instead of 9 to get out of the conference as well as getting through a playoff to be conference champs.
CycloneErik
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Of course, $1M credits is nothing to me when I have $64M. I need $15M credits. (Economies of scale)
They would match two pods in the regular season, (much like having an 8 team division, except it would rotate pods)
The winner of each 8 team grouping would play in the title game.
Has absolutely nothing to do with this, and was already scheduled, but I just wanted to mention that ours was meeting. Maybe mondo or chip won't read second post.
CycloneErik
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2nd post isn't dramatic enough. Could you add some doom and gloom to it, please?
The allure for schools is playing in Cali. Going there once every three years wont satisfy the schools. Not to mention playing at a school like USC once every 6 years.
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I'd say the NCAA would have to approve any second playoff game for a Pac 16 because they have rules now in regards to a conference championship.
So let's say Pods 1-4 - each pod has 2 schools A and 2 schools B
Year 1 - 1/2 in one division; 3/4 in other division - 1A v 3A, 1B v 3B, 2A v 4A, 2B v 4B
Year 2 - 1/3 in one division; 2/4 in other division - 1A v 4A, 1B v 4B, 2A v 3A, 2B v 3B
Year 3 - 1/4 in one division; 2/3 in other division - 1A v 2A, 1B v 2B, 3A v 4A, 3A v 4A
Years 4-6 same divisions, but outside division switch e.g. 1A v 3B, 1B v 3A, etc.
Assume Pod 1 is CU's pod (group A)
Assume Pod 2 is USC's pod (group A)
CU would play USC in Year 1, Year 3, Year 4 - so 3 out of every 6 years - basically, the same thing for all teams - they would only play each other half the time and 1/4 the time in the other city.
If t Boone really cared and wanted a big 12, he could write another 200 mill check to the conference and take care of the revenue gap until we get a new one.
If they split the 4 Cali Schools into 2 different pods you would be going there 2 out of every 3 years.
FYI, our university presidents are already given all power in regards to athletic conferences. That is not the case for TAMU and OU, where they would meet to give that power to their university president.
So we are basically a step ahead... our BOR essentially is irrevelant. It's all GG and JP now.
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So essentially you'd have
Pod 1
team 1, 2, 3, 4
Pod 2
team 5, 6, 7, 8
Pod 3
team 9, 10, 11, 12
Pod 4
team 13, 14, 15, 16
Let's say Pod 2 is the California schools. Let's say if you're in Pod 1 that you play the pod 1 teams in '12, the pod 2 teams in '13, and the pod 3 teams in '14. That leaves you with 2 more conference games. I assume you have 1 protected rival in each of the other pods to get you up to 9 games.
That would mean that in 2012 you'd play all the Cali schools, but in 2013 and 2014 you would only play 1 game against the Cali schools. I guess if you want to tell recruits you'll play the Cali schools one go around in your 4 years (except 1 of every 3 classes) then you can hope that'd sell them.
As far as a conf championship game goes, if you assume your divisions are essentially 8 teams divisions which rotate every year its going to stink on the years where you have a tie in the standings with multiple teams from different pods or if there is competitive unbalance on some years when the strongest pods are in the same division.
This happens even with 8 team divisions, Big 12 north was always weaker than the south. I bet OSU, A&M, ect weren't happy when Mizzou and ISU were fighting it out for a trip to the championship game.
Oh boy. Getting the Califonia schools to agree to that is going to be fun as well as the Washington schools. What would you have?
Pod 1
USC
UCLA
AZ
AZ st
Pod 2
Oregon
Oregon St
Stanford
Cal
Pod 3
Wash
Wash st
Utah
Colorado
Pod 4
OU
OSU
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I don't think the Cali schools will want to give up playing each other each year.
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