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ISUAgronomist

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So I've been busy today and just now catching up on everything. Whats happened today? Too lazy to read the newer pages. But I saw on 13 news we talked to the Mountain West? Why?

OU laid out demands - Equalizing power & revenue and Dan Beebe needs to go

MWC - "Hey, ISU keep us in mind" ISU - "We're in Big 12 or Big 12 + Big East, thanks for calling"
 

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So I've been busy today and just now catching up on everything. Whats happened today? Too lazy to read the newer pages. But I saw on 13 news we talked to the Mountain West? Why?

OU might be staying, wanting concessions from Texas
Mizzou has been tentatively accepted to SEC
No they haven't
Yes they have
MWC reached out to all of the Big 12 leftovers, not just ISU - don't read anything into it.
Pac 12 may not want OSU or TT
Pac 12 voting on Friday
Almost every school has had or will have regents meeting this week.
 

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OU might be staying, wanting concessions from Texas
Mizzou has been tentatively accepted to SEC
No they haven't
Yes they have

MWC reached out to all of the Big 12 leftovers, not just ISU - don't read anything into it.
Pac 12 may not want OSU or TT
Pac 12 voting on Friday
Almost every school has had or will have regents meeting this week.

Latest update - No they haven't
 

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From the K-State boards:

"Mountaineers claiming they weren't told "no" by SEC that they were actually told "hold on".

If we hear anything else about WVU being back in consideration for the SEC in the next couple of days its probably a safe bet that they believe the Big 12 is staying together.

Or its the SEC posturing to see if they can force Mizzou's hand."
 

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Anyone heard anything new about the Big East Schools reaching out to the Big XII? Twitter has been quite for a while, which I no longer know if it is a good thing or a bad thing.
 

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If you visit Tigerboard, you would think that it is a forgone conclusion that Mizzou is going to the SEC.


Those guys are complete tools on that forum. I can't imagine why they'd be excited if the facts reported are true. They'd be in the middle of the litigation crosshairs if what was reported is true. Deaton is the chair of the Big XII, he's been critical of Boren's actions on Sept. 2, then came out and said there was no conflict of interests in his leading the efforts to maintain the conference (while admitting that his university would be looked out for, which is to be expected).

But to leak on the day that OU seems to be coming back to the fray, and undermine efforts to bring the XII back together, would certainly draw the fire of anyone left out.

The SEC has also been very deliberate in their communications to the fact that they did not seek A&M, hence the need for full legal release. The MU source indicates the SEC invited Mizzou....that certainly would bring TI claims right into the SEC's lap....I don't buy this for a second.
 

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OU might be staying, wanting concessions from Texas
Mizzou has been tentatively accepted to SEC
No they haven't
Yes they have
MWC reached out to all of the Big 12 leftovers, not just ISU - don't read anything into it.
Pac 12 may not want OSU or TT
Pac 12 voting on Friday
Almost every school has had or will have regents meeting this week.


You should add to the regents meetings, that almost all states had them and every state but Iowa shows support for their school. Iowa regents were basically acting like they couldn't be bothered with it and Lang (the TB appointed president) said he was going to talk to Kansas' regents, but made it sound like he could care less.

That's a very big concern for Iowa State. I don't trust anyone that runs this state to have our backs at all. In fact, I think Iowa State's athletic department imploding only helps them.
 

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Anyone heard anything new about the Big East Schools reaching out to the Big XII? Twitter has been quite for a while, which I no longer know if it is a good thing or a bad thing.


The last I heard the football school AD's were meeting tonight.
 

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I don't believe the SEC would be as cautious with Mizzou, because Mizzou is not a Texas school. Baylor's main beef is that the SEC is destroying Texas rivalries.

In fact, if this Mizzou offer is real, I would not be surprised AT ALL if Mizzou is #13, and A&M becomes #14.

Now, that is not blatant homerism, it's just that Mizzou does not have the baggage A&M does. Texas has to worry about Tech, OU has to worry about OK State, KU has to worry about K State and A&M has to deal with Baylor.

Mizzou does not have a traveling partner.
 

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Two things that OU has pointed out is Texas, Fox and the Big 12 striking a deal to show a football game on LHN. Second, Espn pushed for High School games. These appear to be the two things that sent everyone over the edge.
 

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I don't believe the SEC would be as cautious with Mizzou, because Mizzou is not a Texas school. Baylor's main beef is that the SEC is destroying Texas rivalries.

In fact, if this Mizzou offer is real, I would not be surprised AT ALL if Mizzou is #13, and A&M becomes #14.

Now, that is not blatant homerism, it's just that Mizzou does not have the baggage A&M does. Texas has to worry about Tech, OU has to worry about OK State, KU has to worry about K State and A&M has to deal with Baylor.

Mizzou does not have a traveling partner.

I 100% disagree. The Baylor lawsuit has to do with TV contracts. Mizzou agreed to the 10 year deal of the Big 12 just the same as A&M. Mizzou and A&M are in the exact same boat legally.

Yes, Mizzou doesn't have the political baggage, but you're going to find you're wrong if you think Mizzou will be admitted without the same conditions as A&M. I'm almost 100% sure you won't see a statement about "Today, the SEC has conditionally admitted Missouri to the SEC" until the Big 12 is officially dead because Mizzou won't apply until its dead.
 

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I don't believe the SEC would be as cautious with Mizzou, because Mizzou is not a Texas school. Baylor's main beef is that the SEC is destroying Texas rivalries.

In fact, if this Mizzou offer is real, I would not be surprised AT ALL if Mizzou is #13, and A&M becomes #14.

Now, that is not blatant homerism, it's just that Mizzou does not have the baggage A&M does. Texas has to worry about Tech, OU has to worry about OK State, KU has to worry about K State and A&M has to deal with Baylor.

Mizzou does not have a traveling partner.

I believe you are incorrect in that assumption. Baylor is protecting its financial interests...the threat toward A&M was truly a threat to keep OU in the conference. The day OU opens the door, the Big XII Chair's university derails that potential...forcing the others to move ahead with alternatives...you have those same parties (Baylor, KSU, ISU, etc.) with damages and a much better fact pattern in a TI lawsuit...aimed squarely at Mizzou and the SEC for initiating the invitation and coming to an informal agreement prior to an application being submitted...
 

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You should add to the regents meetings, that almost all states had them and every state but Iowa shows support for their school. Iowa regents were basically acting like they couldn't be bothered with it and Lang (the TB appointed president) said he was going to talk to Kansas' regents, but made it sound like he could care less.

That's a very big concern for Iowa State. I don't trust anyone that runs this state to have our backs at all. In fact, I think Iowa State's athletic department imploding only helps them.

Take it easy. Lang is an isu grad and we should be glad to have him there. Also, our universities work more autonomously then in other states.
 

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I believe you are incorrect in that assumption. Baylor is protecting its financial interests...the threat toward A&M was truly a threat to keep OU in the conference. The day OU opens the door, the Big XII Chair's university derails that potential...forcing the others to move ahead with alternatives...you have those same parties (Baylor, KSU, ISU, etc.) with damages and a much better fact pattern in a TI lawsuit...aimed squarely at Mizzou and the SEC for initiating the invitation and coming to an informal agreement prior to an application being submitted...

I think that we may have a bigger case against Mizzou if there is any evidence of discussions going on now (if the Big 12 dissolves).

Today, I think the Big 12 lives. Tomorrow, I may change my mind.
 

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I think that we may have a bigger case against Mizzou if there is any evidence of discussions going on now (if the Big 12 dissolves).

Today, I think the Big 12 lives. Tomorrow, I may change my mind.

The potential suit might not be bigger, but it would be a better set of circumstances than the A&M exit. The likelihood that A&M initiated contact with the SEC is likely true. The fact that the SEC then said we won't take you until you clear legal hurdles would indicate they want no part of litigation, likely due to what would be found in the discovery process.

But according the source from Mizzou, it was inferred that the SEC extended the pending offer. That's a HUGE differentiator.
 

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I don't believe the SEC would be as cautious with Mizzou, because Mizzou is not a Texas school. Baylor's main beef is that the SEC is destroying Texas rivalries.

In fact, if this Mizzou offer is real, I would not be surprised AT ALL if Mizzou is #13, and A&M becomes #14.

Now, that is not blatant homerism, it's just that Mizzou does not have the baggage A&M does. Texas has to worry about Tech, OU has to worry about OK State, KU has to worry about K State and A&M has to deal with Baylor.

Mizzou does not have a traveling partner.

:twitcy: Funniest thing I've read all day. Baylor is keeping the right to sue to protect itself from a negative outcome, not to keep the texas schools together. Baylor just wants to keep its seat at the BCS table, like every other school in a BCS conference. If MU leaves and further destabilizes the conference, you can bet your *** that they will sue, along with ISU/KSU/Kansas in order to recoup future losses.
 

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Espn just had breaking news that Missouri accepted sec bid

Nope.

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SEC statement “The Southeastern Conference has not agreed, formally or informally, to accept any institution other than Texas A&M and there have not been conference discussions regarding changes in divisional alignments.”
 
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