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Interesting tidbit with Ferentz interview...

Scout.com: Pre-Pitt: Ferentz Transcript

Q. Going back to Iowa State, it seems their situation with the Big 12, it seems to be more perilous than ever. I guess my question is should Iowa State lose its automatic BCS qualification? Should it find itself without a seat at the table, do you think that would have any effect on the series between you guys?



COACH FERENTZ: Just my initial reaction would be no, but no, that is so far -- that is so hypothetical, and believe me, I'm not -- I just would envision us playing them from here on out, and I have no idea what the future of that conference is, what their future is. I don't know if anybody can answer that right now. I can promise you I'm not worried about it right now. I'm more worried about our practice this afternoon.
 
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Texas A&M Leaving Big 12

Is "Surviving" enough? An unequal conference with so much infighting is not going to be attractive to any outside schools (besides the ones we don't want to attract). Who in their right mind would join the Big 12 that has a kill switch buyout with compensation as it is?

Ill wait to see what happens to reserve judgement, but I think it's an extension of the conference until UT, and OU have no further use for it..at which point they get up and leave with TR, OSU, and buy someone else off, dissolve the conference, and walk without paying a dime.


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DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe



NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN THE PAC 12 LARRY ITS NOTHING BUT DESERT AND HIPPIES.
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Oh my god I'm almost crying I'm laughing so hard.
 
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I think the ultimate storm for ISU is about to hit. This season we go 8-3 and hit a BCS bowl, and then the big 12 collapses and we are left treading water. We should of seen it coming.
 
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cyman05 said:
Interesting tidbit with Ferentz interview...

Scout.com: Pre-Pitt: Ferentz Transcript

Q. Going back to Iowa State, it seems their situation with the Big 12, it seems to be more perilous than ever. I guess my question is should Iowa State lose its automatic BCS qualification? Should it find itself without a seat at the table, do you think that would have any effect on the series between you guys?



COACH FERENTZ: Just my initial reaction would be no, but no, that is so far -- that is so hypothetical, and believe me, I'm not -- I just would envision us playing them from here on out, and I have no idea what the future of that conference is, what their future is. I don't know if anybody can answer that right now. I can promise you I'm not worried about it right now. I'm more worried about our practice this afternoon.
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Sounds like standard coachspeak for giving a soundbite and saying nothing. I wouldn't read into it at all.
 
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in response to the KF quote (accidently quoted wrong post)

what a jumbled mess of a quote from KF
Translation - "silent thoughts in head - why are you asking me this? Um, I don't know, I mean sure, yeah, I guess if they were in a crappy conference thats good, because you know that helps um me, but golly I suppose maybe I shouldn't say that, so um No, I mean No. - I should definitely say no - what was the question?"
 
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I think the ultimate storm for ISU is about to hit. This season we go 8-3 and hit a BCS bowl, and then the big 12 collapses and we are left treading water. We should of seen it coming.
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I'd love it if we go 8-3 but that record is not getting us to a BCS game.
 
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Seeing as how KF's head is filled with crickets and sunshine that is about what I would expect.
 
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If OU is appeased with more revenue, it's only a matter of time before Missouri asks for their share when the SEC comes calling.
 
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As much as some of the media likes to come out and joke about Iowa State and Baylor being relegated to Division III in order to get more hits on their websites, its nice to read articles like this when somebody tries to be rational about the nonsense of what's going on...

Texas, Oklahoma, everyone loses if realignment blows up Big 12 - Michael Rosenberg - SI.com

I'm just wondering:
Has everybody in the Big 12 lost their minds?
This is all so ridiculous, and it is fueled by fear and mistrust instead of anything resembling logic. This isn't about right and wrong. It is, like virtually everything else in college athletics, about winning and losing.

Well if the Big 12 blows up, everybody loses.

There has been so much hand-wringing and talk about the loss of tradition that we're missing the big picture here. Everybody in the Big 12 is better off staying in the Big 12. On a pragmatic level, that is what makes sense.

If the Big 12 stays together, Texas and Oklahoma would get to print money and be the bullies in a league of familiar rivals. Kansas would be a basketball power in a legitimate big-time conference. The other schools would get Big 12 money and the possibility of rising up to compete for a title once in a while (Missouri did it with Chase Daniel, and Kansas State has done it). It won't happen a lot, but it can happen.

But what the heck does Oklahoma get out of being in the Pac-24, or whatever it will be called? More money, maybe. But in the long-term, this could be a disaster. If Nebraska felt out of place when the Big Eight became the Big 12, how would Oklahoma feel in a league full of teams from California, Oregon, Arizona and Washington?

But in a world where TCU can play South Florida in a Big East game, regional affiliations don't seem to matter. But they do. In time, people will see that. Heck, in a weird way, all this realignment actually reflects the regional biases of this country. The Big 10 is located in manufacturing states, which are union territory, and so the Big 10 has a one-for-all, equal-pay-for-equal-work feel to it. Texas is all about small government and letting the rich get richer if they are smart enough to do so. The South thinks it is the real America and wouldn't mind seceding again. The West Coast doesn't mind being grossly overpopulated as long as the sun is out and there is money to be made.

Texas is acting purely out of self-interest. So is Texas A&M. So is Oklahoma. So did Nebraska and Colorado when they left the league. Even Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe is acting out of self-interest -- he can't be a commissioner if he doesn't have a league. Iowa State and the Kansas schools would act out of self-interest, too, if they were allowed to act. Instead they are desperately putting frosting on cupcakes for their annual athletic department bake sales.

Yes, everybody is trying to get what they want -- and as a result, it is highly possible that nobody will get what they really want.

All of these schools would be better off finding an amicable, workable, long-term structure to save the Big 12. Swallow your egos. Put fear aside. There is a deal to be made there, but only if everybody wants to make it.
 
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cyman05 said:
Iowa State and the Kansas schools would act out of self-interest, too, if they were allowed to act. Instead they are desperately putting frosting on cupcakes for their annual athletic department bake sales.
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Boy, these guys just can't resist, can they? If you aren't a Texas, Oklahoma and the like, you might as well not even exist.
 
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