*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
- Thread starter CloneFan4
- Start date
- Status
+1...you can't worry about stealing teams from others since you've already been stolen from. The name of the game is do what's best for you and don't worry about anybody else.
This report seemingly contradicts Pitt and Syracuse making it to the ACC by 2012. However, the last line could just be a repetition of Marinatto's statements from the past rather than the conference's current stance as of yesterday.
By the way, I think it'd be awesome to see Air Force and SMU basketball playing in the Big East along with TCU basketball. Talk about schools being out of place on so many levels!!! I assumed Air Force plays in the Mountain West in all sports, but I have to say I really didn't know Air Force had a basketball team. Seems funny to think that a school in Colorado might be in the Big East.
Presidents and chancellors give commissioner OK to expand Big East Conference - ESPN
A source with knowledge of the meeting told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that the Big East did not issue any invitations Sunday. The source said a number of schools were discussed, including Navy, Army, Air Force, Temple, Central Florida and a new name in SMU, which would be a natural rival with TCU if the Horned Frogs honor the commitment to join the conference in 2012-13. All of these schools except Army and Navy would join the Big East for all sports.
The timing of Pitt and Syracuse's departure was also on the agenda, a source said. Pitt and Syracuse would like to get out for the 2012-13 season. But Marinatto has said he wants to hold the schools to the 27-month departure requirement.
By the way, I think it'd be awesome to see Air Force and SMU basketball playing in the Big East along with TCU basketball. Talk about schools being out of place on so many levels!!! I assumed Air Force plays in the Mountain West in all sports, but I have to say I really didn't know Air Force had a basketball team. Seems funny to think that a school in Colorado might be in the Big East.
Presidents and chancellors give commissioner OK to expand Big East Conference - ESPN
A source with knowledge of the meeting told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that the Big East did not issue any invitations Sunday. The source said a number of schools were discussed, including Navy, Army, Air Force, Temple, Central Florida and a new name in SMU, which would be a natural rival with TCU if the Horned Frogs honor the commitment to join the conference in 2012-13. All of these schools except Army and Navy would join the Big East for all sports.
The timing of Pitt and Syracuse's departure was also on the agenda, a source said. Pitt and Syracuse would like to get out for the 2012-13 season. But Marinatto has said he wants to hold the schools to the 27-month departure requirement.
It basically died with the Pitt and Syracuse departures.
Adding BYU, AFA, and Boise would be a sign of pure desperation on the B12's part. AFA cannot consistently compete in the B12 with their academic and service requirements and Boise FB will quickly tank with the B12's academic requirements.
What decided advantage does ISU have over BSU right now? I would argue none. Contrary to popular belief, BSU doesn't accept partial qualifiers anymore. Beyond that, who cares about academics in the Big 12?
Uh, they may not now, this year, but they have until they joined the new conference. Boise has won a ton of games on the backs of partial qualifiers, just like Fresno State.
Arguing otherwise is foolish. They will suffer in a league that doesn't allow them, just like Nebraska did.
I agree with you, Yaman. I think Boise would be very competitive in the Big 12. Boise has much more recent success than we do. I think that success would carry over into the Big 12.
The presidents at UT, KU, Mizzou and ISU especially care about academics as does Boren at OU who desperately wanted P12 membership to raise OU's academic profile. Do you really think the UT Prez and some of the other Prezs are going to approve adding a Mickey Mouse academic school like Boise? I would be shocked if they do.
Boise doesn't have the in-state recruiting base to sustain their success once Chris Peterson leaves. It would be a monumental mistake for the B12 to add Boise assuming UT and OU are staying put.
I don't believe so. There is no such thing as partial qualifiers in Division 1 as I understand it and I don't think BSU has taken them since they went D1 in 1996. You can petition, I believe for someone to be admitted but that person is ineligible for a year and he must validate qualification, similar to Rony Nelson. I don't know if that was Rony's deal, but it would be a similar circumstance.
Let's say they do, again, what is the decided advantage ISU has?
I'm not for BSU to join. Their endowment is outrageously small but they are abig name and if they could sustain I don't see them being any different than ISU if they were to sustain success. People don't seem to take into account the boost they would get from being a BCS school either. That would help them a lot.
Then why are we not pushing TTU, OKS and KSU to further academics. We are not an academic conference. The Big Ten, Pac 10 and ACC may be, but we are not.
They built a lot of their past success on that. They, like TCU, are a team that's been the flavor of the decade, but who knows if that continues if they're playing the big boys more than a couple of times per year. I don't think they bring much in the way of TV sets, no on academics, limited on sports beyond football and wrestling. Stadium is small and that d*** blue field.
I'm going to side with the others when I say to go east, Big East that is. Less flash, more balanced athletic departments.
Big XII was, prior to the instability. If Missery stays, I think there's still 5 of the 9 AAU.
Pretty sure we are at 5/10 counting A&M. Would be 4/9 with Mizzou (KU, ISU, UT).
I completely agree with the going East idea. I'm not saying to add BSU. I am just saying that I think they would remain competitive in the B12.
My order of addition would be
BYU
Louisville
WVU
Cincinnati
USF
UCF
ECU
then somewhere down there is TCu and BSU
I'm sorry but you need to read up on partial qualifier rules. DI schools can and do take partial qualifiers. The big 12 limited it when the conference started. Other schools especially Boise and Fresno have made a living off of partial qualifiers.
The big twelve still allows one partial qualifier per year I believe. Nebraska fought like heck to change that rule when the big twelve formed because they knew how it would affect their team.
Guess what, they were right. No partial qualifiers meant an end of a dynasty.
- Status
