This isn't rocket science...

[everyyard]

the fact is, there is a lot of talent on this team, and Kane is an all-american, but we don't have consistent 3 point shooters. Our offense is set up that the defense has to come out and guard you and opens up the middle for cuts but if they don't have to come out then our spacing doesn't matter. We have got to get close to 30% from the 3-line or this season will get ugly fast.

 

[chuckd4735]

Actually, for this team, rebounding poorly affects our offense more than missing threes does. We were only effective in transition tonight, and had only about half the opportunities due to doing a poor job on the boards.

Knowing how Hoiberg plays, I actually dont think we rebounded that bad. We got out rebounded, yes, but ISU is averaging 40 boards a game (which is 27th in the nation), and they pulled down 36 last night.

Heres the thing, KU got 38 of their 53 rebounds on the defensive side. When you take 70 shots and only shot 31%, there are going to be a lot of rebounds to be had, and ISU never plays for the offensive rebound; the second ISU shots, they send 3 to 4 guys back to play defense.

 

[Clonedep156]

I lost my mind watching Niang throw up brick after brick from the 3 line. Sure he might hit a few but when you have 4 KU players in foul trouble with plenty of time left in the game, you should be getting the ball into the paint and trying to draw a foul. Instead you have Niang throwing up a prayer and nobody around to rebound. We do lack size for sure but didn't seem to matter vs Baylor.

 

[Dingus]

3's and rebounding, 3's and rebounding. That's it. ISU only got 60% of available defensive rebounds (20/33). That's not very good.

 

[dirtyninety]

Referees actually did a good job. KU is a more talented team......similar to Baylor game, if we hit threes, there is a good chance we win big. We did not, we cannot get rebounds, KU is longer and taller than us, we are reluctant to utilize our bench to help with fouls and rest our starters. Our guys hustled and played as hard as they could and still had a "fighter's chance" at the end.........Not rocket science. HOWEVER, this makes last year even more infuriating. When we actually do beat the school of McDonalds and blue blood elitists...we got screwed by referees. I still Hate KU.

 

[cydsho]

This team is not a half court defensive team so we are going to get out rebounded, even at a high rate like last night is acceptable because we had a huge advantage in T/O points off T/O.
Shooting was way off because assists were off and that is because we didn't run the offense. We shots aren't falling you spread the floor and run the offense to look for the easy shot. Kane is an awesome player but I think he is putting too much on his shoulders now and the offense is breaking down to more isolation. I'm sure Fred will pound this into the heads of everyone this week.
Its not rocket science like in the OP, run the offense that got you to 14-0.

 

[The_Architect]

They don't need to hit 3s. They need to hit any shot. They need to go back to playing hard.

Seriously? The team is playing very hard. Effort is not a problem at all, they are just not a great jump shooting team this season.

 

[The_Architect]

There are other places on the court to make shots from, besides in the paint and behind the 3 point line.

Yep and they are least efficient shots in basketball. Fred doesn't want us relying on the mid range shots.

 

[peteypie]

So that area between the 3 point line and paint is a no shot zone?

Lowest effective FG percentage. Fred likes to look at the statistics and analytically does not like that shot. So short answer is yes.

 

[peteypie]

Are you seriously arguing that Fred doesn't want guys shooting in the area between the paint and the three point line?

Pretty much. If they are wide open they will take that shot. But he has said it himself, the mid range jumper is the worst shot in basketball. Bunnies and 3's.

First post in the thread below has some links to prove this.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/182782-our-shot-selection-created-floor-spacing.html

 

[Dryburn]

I was really disappointed in the spacing and the way ISU attempted to run the offense last night. Where was the team from the non-conference, or even the Baylor game? I don't understand why a team goes away from what works like that, especially when Kansas was not doing anything in particular to prevent it.

The shooting was atrocious, especially from behind the arc. For the first time though, I think some of the shot selection should be called into question. An example is at some point last night, Niang needed to stop shooting from out there and try and get the 3 points the old-fashioned way.....drive and get fouled. I know CFH is a "let them shoot" type of guy...but at some point......0-5, 0-6 whatever....a player has to realize this is not his night.

The other problem is the rebounding. Kansas is big, and very athletic but they are not the only Big 12 opponent that will be that way. ISU is just not boxing out well enough. Melvin and no rebounds in the fist half! None! I would have to watch the replay to see if he was getting screened out or what was going on, but this problem has got to be addressed. Before Big 12 started, ISU was a pretty good rebounding team, but now that they are facing some tougher competition, they look inept at it. ISU wants, and needs to score a lot of their points in transition. You can't do that if you don't get the rebound and get the ball out to the wings on the break. It just doesn't happen.

 

[kingcy]

Yep and they are least efficient shots in basketball. Fred doesn't want us relying on the mid range shots.

Just because you shot a few in a game doenst mean you are relying on them. If they count as points when you make them how is it not efficient. Launching 3s and trying to get points in the paint over talent tall guys isn't very efficient either.

 

[kingcy]

Lowest effective FG percentage. Fred likes to look at the statistics and analytically does not like that shot. So short answer is yes.

Shooting and making mid range shots also forces a D to cover more area. Kansas and OU dared this team to make 3s, by packing it in the lane, this team didn't make 3s and they had no other way to score, besides forcing shots in traffic. I really find it hard to believe that CFH wants his team to be so one-dimensional.

 

[kingcy]

Pretty much. If they are wide open they will take that shot. But he has said it himself, the mid range jumper is the worst shot in basketball. Bunnies and 3's.

First post in the thread below has some links to prove this.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/182782-our-shot-selection-created-floor-spacing.html

When has CHF said this? Does he tell his players don't bother with those shots?

 

[Luth4Cy]

When has CHF said this? Does he tell his players don't bother with those shots?

I would also like to know this. I understand long two's aren't great shots but I don't understand why our guys would be told to not pull the trigger on 10 and 12 footers.