Tim Floyd
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That was the annoying part of Tim's tenure and some of Larry's, we'd always hear about these outstanding talents that never made it to campus.
Agreed...I think they were both great coaches and I liked them as people too...but this team would kick some butt..
PG-CJ Bruhton (Indian Hills transfer; ineligible; drafted into the NBA but didn't make a roster; recently played for Australia in the Olympics)
SG-Gerrod Henderson (absolutele stud;ineligible; ended out being an all conference WAC player at Louisiana Tech)
SF-Jerome Harper (McDonalds All-American, went to IHCC;ineligible)
PF-Justin Holt-can also play the wing, but I'm going small (went to Oregon State, Virginia Tech and ISU, and never played a game;ineligible or kicked out of all three...outstanding talent though)
C-Ernest Brown (Indian Hills All American; entered NBA draft; later landed a couple 10day contracts and played some with the Harlem Globetrotters)
This is a team with top 15 talent...I'd bring Chris Alexander and Ty Shine off the bench...
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Tim was a mixed bag. He went after and got talent, but a lot of it came with strings attached. Wondered how 1/2 the kids graduated or stayed out of jail..
Big change in the pace of the game from Johny Orr run and gun to Tim Floyd plodding teams, but I truly learned to appreciate good defense with Tim.
The guy was a delight to talk to. Loved his sense of humor.
Big change in the pace of the game from Johny Orr run and gun to Tim Floyd plodding teams, but I truly learned to appreciate good defense with Tim.
The guy was a delight to talk to. Loved his sense of humor.
I will be completely honest, I don't get everyone's obsession w/ Tim Floyd. Was it b/c of him being lured away by the NBA? Did that give people the impression that he was better than he was?
Give me Eustachy any day of the week. People like to discredit him b/c he walked into Iowa State w/ Fizer on the team, but Floyd walked in w/ Hoiberg and a much much much better supporting cast
Give me Eustachy any day of the week. People like to discredit him b/c he walked into Iowa State w/ Fizer on the team, but Floyd walked in w/ Hoiberg and a much much much better supporting cast
So the Sweet 16 he made here, the wins, the tourny titles all just luck. If he is such a bad coach why are his coaching clinic packed? He can coach circles around a lot of good coaches. Great college coaches have failed in the NBA, its a way different game.
Raef Lafrentz used to tell me that we were the only team that Roy would specifically gameplan for in practice because of Tim's gameplans. All of their other games they would just play their game. Coach Floyd had a great basketball mind. His playbook was ginormous. He would put in special plays in the shootarounds and they would work to perfection that night in the games. I would think it would be tough to find a more knowledgeable basketball guy.
I also hold Tim Floyd in high regard. He instantly took his first team and made them better road players. Much more disciplined.
I first met the guy by accident walking into a hotel elevator in Norman, OK. Is was there for work and unbeknown to me the team was staying in the same hotel. The elevator door opens and there's Floyd, Hoiberg, Meyer, Michalick and Hamilton, prolly a few others. Just about pooped my panties.
I said I was an Iowa State Alum and he was very cordial. Let's not forget how close the 1996-97 team was to the Elite 8. That UCLA game is right up there with the Michigan St. game for crushing loses.
I first met the guy by accident walking into a hotel elevator in Norman, OK. Is was there for work and unbeknown to me the team was staying in the same hotel. The elevator door opens and there's Floyd, Hoiberg, Meyer, Michalick and Hamilton, prolly a few others. Just about pooped my panties.
I said I was an Iowa State Alum and he was very cordial. Let's not forget how close the 1996-97 team was to the Elite 8. That UCLA game is right up there with the Michigan St. game for crushing loses.
Great points. Any coach would have failed with the Bulls roster he was given. Dickey Simpkins was starting games. People forget in his one season with the Hornets he was 41-41 and made the playoffs.
Honestly I think all three coaches have good qualities but Floyd was probably the most talented all-around coach, as he is showing at USC.
I never said luck. I never said I didn't think he was a good coach. But Iowa State fans think he is the greatest coach in the world sometimes!
Once again, he walked into Iowa State and we were LOADED w/ talent! He left Iowa State w/ Fizer and not much more. What Eustachy did is much more impressive. Our teams played tougher and looked better prepared w/ Eustachy as a coach
As for his clinic's being packed, he is a big name! He coached the Bulls, the Hornets, and now USC.
Tim Floyd, good coach, but not great.
Tim Floyd is a great college coach. I knew from day one that he would fail at the bulls, not only because of the roster, but because of his coaching style. Floyd was a defensive minded coach, and the NBA didn't have room for defense at the time Tim took that job. Every game seemed like it went between 100 and 120 pts. NBA players did not like to play defense then.
Orr did more for the ISU program than any other coach. That said I would rank them as follows:
1) Tim Floyd
1a) Larry Eustachy
3) Johnny Orr
Yes, Floyd inherited a lot of talent his first year, but they were all seniors. Do you remember how coming into his 2nd year they were picked for last in the Big 8! I loved watching the defenses he came up with for the different teams we played! I do remember the Big 22, but I'm thankful not all made it here because had they made it, we would not have had the pleasure of watching Jamal Tinsley for 2 years!
1) Tim Floyd
1a) Larry Eustachy
3) Johnny Orr
Yes, Floyd inherited a lot of talent his first year, but they were all seniors. Do you remember how coming into his 2nd year they were picked for last in the Big 8! I loved watching the defenses he came up with for the different teams we played! I do remember the Big 22, but I'm thankful not all made it here because had they made it, we would not have had the pleasure of watching Jamal Tinsley for 2 years!
Depends what you call dumb ... he got NBA money for ~ 3 years (between Bull & Hornets) and ended up the coach of USC.
I mean in the grand scheme of things he ended up with less wins, but probably more bank and a job similar to what he would have left us for anyway.
Tim is my favorite BB coach of all time at ISU ... but between you and me he wasn't ever going to retire here - NBA or not.
