Tom Herman

[CydlineFan]

Obviously coaching at Ohio State has many advantages (unlimited resources, access to top recruits, etc.). With that said, Herman had a great year and quickly making a name for himself.

1. Announced as a Top 5 Broyles Award Finalist last week (http://collegefootball.ap.org/stltoday/article/kiffin-frost-among-5-broyles-award-finalists)
2. #1 Top assistant in the country and poised to be a head coach soon, according to Fox Sports (http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...ive-coordinators-head-coach-candidates-072914)

 

[Scott34]

This is quite possibly the worst idea there is. He failed when he was here. He proved that he couldn't adjust to the players he had when he was here, why would he ever need to be brought back? Not saying he didn't do well this year but let's face it, OSU is way different than ISU.

 

[Tedcyclone]

If you cannot win with Urbans Players you do not belong in coaching. Team is stacked.

 

[Luth4Cy]

I think Herman would have had some decent offenses here if he stayed. Definitely wouldn't have had offenses like he had at OSU, but I think we'd all settle for scoring near the middle of the Big 12. IMO, both Jantz and Barnett would have taken a bigger step forward in 2012 than they did under Mess if Herman had stayed. Could have given us 8 or so wins that year.

 

[FootballinTexas]

If you cannot win with Urbans Players you do not belong in coaching. Team is stacked.

May I remind you that the staff at tOSU started at the same time. So, any "Urban Meyer" players were brought in by the current staff.
For instance, Braxton Miller was recruited by someone from Tressell's staff but, Tom Herman was responsible for J.T. Barrett.

 

[jtdoyle1]

i dont think we hated chizik while he was here. That set in after he left

Yeah, everybody loved chizik when he was having 2 and 3 win seasons and hate Rhoads for it.

 

[Stewo]

We need a coach with actual head coaching experience. Continuing to be an on-the-job training school will continue to give us the same results.

 

[AuH2O]

May I remind you that the staff at tOSU started at the same time. So, any "Urban Meyer" players were brought in by the current staff.
For instance, Braxton Miller was recruited by someone from Tressell's staff but, Tom Herman was responsible for J.T. Barrett.

Sorry but any team coached by Urban Meyer is using HIS offense and they are HIS players. I don't care who the primary recruiter was. You or I could get 5 stars to play for Meyer and his offense, which has been an absolute juggernaut at BG, Utah, and UF. As unfair as it is to judge Herman on his failure at ISU, it is also a bad idea to heap all of this praise on him for his success coaching a team to success under the best offensive mind in CFB with better talent than the opposition every week.

 

[Spam]

Yeah, everybody loved chizik when he was having 2 and 3 win seasons and hate Rhoads for it.

Chizik would not have survived 2-3 win seasons in year 6. He was given a pass because in was in year 1 and year 2. Only an Iowa native can survive that level of failure in years 5 and 6

 

[FootballinTexas]

Sorry but any team coached by Urban Meyer is using HIS offense and they are HIS players. I don't care who the primary recruiter was. You or I could get 5 stars to play for Meyer and his offense, which has been an absolute juggernaut at BG, Utah, and UF. As unfair as it is to judge Herman on his failure at ISU, it is also a bad idea to heap all of this praise on him for his success coaching a team to success under the best offensive mind in CFB with better talent than the opposition every week.

Based on your comment:

No good coach that's coached under a great coach can ever be credited for HIS contribution to the overall program. Therefore, Urban Meyer should have never been given an opportunity to lead a program and develop into the great coach he is now because most would consider Earl Bruce and Lou Holtz great football minds. Urban Meyer coached THIER players in THEIR system.

 

[Rabbuk]

We need a coach with actual head coaching experience. Continuing to be an on-the-job training school will continue to give us the same results.

The problem is that he never seems to learn anything from on-the-job experience.

 

[deadeyededric]

Chizik was not a great coach...but he was a heck of a recruiter.

That's debatable. A great head coach head coach hires coordinators like Guz Malzahn and recruits players like Cam Newton. He does have a national championship. And if anyone can win at places like Auburn why was it their first title in decades?

 

[xboxfever]

Tom Herman was a major failure at ISU. He didn't adapt to the talent. His play style calls for great players, and at ISU he didn't have great players and the offense struggled. He would be a terrible hire for any school that is not a traditional powerhouse. It would be a major failure if he were hired at ISU.

 

[SpokaneCY]

This is quite possibly the worst idea there is. He failed when he was here. He proved that he couldn't adjust to the players he had when he was here, why would he ever need to be brought back? Not saying he didn't do well this year but let's face it, OSU is way different than ISU.

Same reason as some use to keep CPR... He's learned his lessons and is ready to move forward.

 

[SpokaneCY]

He was in Mensa for ****** sake man.

I was in NAMBLA but doesn't mean I can play Stanley. Oh, and that's the National Association of Marlon Brando Look ALikes....

 

[Spam]

He was in Mensa for ****** sake man.

Wasnt Charlie Weis in Mensa also?

 

[Tre4ISU]

Sorry but any team coached by Urban Meyer is using HIS offense and they are HIS players. I don't care who the primary recruiter was. You or I could get 5 stars to play for Meyer and his offense, which has been an absolute juggernaut at BG, Utah, and UF. As unfair as it is to judge Herman on his failure at ISU, it is also a bad idea to heap all of this praise on him for his success coaching a team to success under the best offensive mind in CFB with better talent than the opposition every week.

I suppose you aren't sold on Dan Mullen either because Urbans system or something.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Wasnt Charlie Weis in Mensa also?

Charlie was in Jenny Craig. Or maybe she ended up in him...

 

[88clone]

He was in Mensa for ****** sake man.

Which means he was stupid enough to pay $128 to get in and $70 per year to stay in.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Tom Herman was a major failure at ISU. He didn't adapt to the talent. His play style calls for great players, and at ISU he didn't have great players and the offense struggled. He would be a terrible hire for any school that is not a traditional powerhouse. It would be a major failure if he were hired at ISU.

If Herman had this years version of Richardson, the view of him would be greatly different. According to your logic and others proclaiming this is Meyers system, then Bowling Green and Utah were powerhouses when Meyer there which is something I was unaware of. I believe Herman is a great coordinator. I don't know what he'll be like as a head coach. Coordinators don't always translate. Just knowing football is a long way from what being a head coach is.