Tough loss to a good team

[livinthedream]

I'm selfish...thank Jim Walden for that. Still view this as a win .

 

[HFCS]

I'll agree with this one. WSU played cleaner and it gave them the win, even if they had fewer big plays and some advantageous refereeing. We played well and had some great big plays to counteract our mistakes, but we had less "slack" to use. Minshew slipping out if those 4-5 near sacks for big plays really made the difference I think.

Plenty of blame for our own mistakes, but also major credit to team for fighting back when previous years' would've quit after those turnovers/missed FGs/calls etc.

Did they really play cleaner? They jumped offsides on two scoring plays. That's the opposite of "clean". That's getting a gift from the zebras.

Both teams played sloppy and made some mistakes. One team was held responsible for mistakes and one got a pass for some reason. ISU even had some great plays taken from them for no good reason other than incompetent officiating. I have never seen an official require four steps for a catch, that's a new one in the history of bad officiating.

 

[cygrads]

Their fithth in Heisman voting quarterback had one lucky pass in the second half to secure the victory. The defense had him completely confused. Had zero in the second half. I want my 32 and 18 back......

I think Minshew was probably the fourth or fifth best QB we faced this season. OU, WV, Tech, BU and then Minshew.

 

[DreamyCy]

Meh WSU isn’t any better then Baylor. Have just an okay performance and we win even with the bad reffing.

 

[CyBobby]

Feels to me like the better team lost.

It always does feel that way when you lose this type of game.....reminded me of Georgia Tech in the Liberty Bowl only in reverse........

....and remember GO Cyclones.......

 

[Rural]

I think Minshew was probably the fourth or fifth best QB we faced this season. OU, WV, Tech, BU and then Minshew.

He plays in a bizarre offense so even that is tough to judge.

So, his other choice this year was to not play at Alabama?

In some respects he and Purdy were choices for that job.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I think Minshew was probably the fourth or fifth best QB we faced this season. OU, WV, Tech, BU and then Minshew.

I thought he was as good as advertised. What more can you ask out of your quarterback than what he gave them?

Fiery guy, found the holes when we left them, and found a way to make a play at critical times when nothing was really there. I'd give Kyler Murray the edge over him, but similar to Murray, he turned enough negative plays into positives when they really needed it.

I have a lot of things to be annoyed about from last night, but Washington State was a good team, an interesting team, and a fun match up.

 

[tolfbfan]

Honestly I wasn't impressed with Washington State. They had no running game. Took no shots downfield. Their d game up a bunch of big plays. We beat ourselves with the turnovers and false starts.

You described exactly what WSU plan is for their team. Their plan got them ranked . They have a great running game plan. It's all those short little tosses out wide. That is their running game plan. Ok, I have stopped hyperventilating.

 

[drmwevr08]

I don't know about better, plus it's the pac 12, but they were one strange snowstorm game away from final 4 consideration. Better by far than a loss to Memphis for instance. Would certainly be easier to take if we hadn't hurt oursel es so much I'd like to see things without that second comical targeting as well .

 

[BoxsterCy]

Feels to me like the better team lost.

The team that actually played better won. Without handfuls of turnovers and stupid penalties we might have won by a couple scores. This wasn't a game where we played better and lost.

 

[TSKCoug]

Bravo! BoxsterCy, the grapes certainly are sour around here, good to see that someone can concede that WSU had some hand in their own victory! As to the referee points which have been made ad nauseum, I think that in most cases it evens itself over a season. Some games you get the calls (though I do think the targeting penalties were legit, even though one of them likely could have been not made as the contact seemed almost inadvertent). Some games the fickle finger of fate goes against you. WSU emerged victorious this time narrowly but back in September they lost 39-36 in a game to USC in which even the Pac-12 conference acknowledged that they screwed up a couple of key calls and non calls. Though that was little to no consolation to WSU. The game still went down as a "Loss", despite the official mea culpa. All in all I think Cyclone fans ought to be optimistic for next season, this was a close loss to a good Cougar team (despite what a few here think), your Freshman quarter back looked pretty damned good for most of the game. Bowling next year for ISU seems almost a sure bet. It ought to be a good time to be a 'Clone.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Bravo! BoxsterCy, the grapes certainly are sour around here, good to see that someone can concede that WSU had some hand in their own victory! As to the referee points which have been made ad nauseum, I think that in most cases it evens itself over a season. Some games you get the calls (though I do think the targeting penalties were legit, even though one of them likely could have been not made as the contact seemed almost inadvertent). Some games the fickle finger of fate goes against you. WSU emerged victorious this time narrowly but back in September they lost 39-36 in a game to USC in which even the Pac-12 conference acknowledged that they screwed up a couple of key calls and non calls. Though that was little to no consolation to WSU. The game still went down as a "Loss", despite the official mea culpa. All in all I think Cyclone fans ought to be optimistic for next season, this was a close loss to a good Cougar team (despite what a few here think), your Freshman quarter back looked pretty damned good for most of the game. Bowling next year for ISU seems almost a sure bet. It ought to be a good time to be a 'Clone.

I kinda view bowl games as exhibitions. Want to win, obviously, but it is not like losing in March Madness. National primetime audience heard a lot about QB Mustache but also got to see Purdy, Butler and Montgomery get talked up along with some nice nods to the million Cyclone fans at the game. If we had pulled a Purdue and been embarrassed I'd be be eating hammers and nails for breakfast I'd be so pissed. Just can't get that pissed about this.

 

[Spanky]

Yup, we've zero players ejected over the past 60+ games then have 2 in a half.
An anomaly for sure.

 

[TSKCoug]

Spanky, 3 turn overs. Take care of the ball and this is an ISU victory.

 

[Spanky]

Bravo! BoxsterCy, the grapes certainly are sour around here, good to see that someone can concede that WSU had some hand in their own victory! As to the referee points which have been made ad nauseum, I think that in most cases it evens itself over a season. Some games you get the calls (though I do think the targeting penalties were legit, even though one of them likely could have been not made as the contact seemed almost inadvertent). Some games the fickle finger of fate goes against you. WSU emerged victorious this time narrowly but back in September they lost 39-36 in a game to USC in which even the Pac-12 conference acknowledged that they screwed up a couple of key calls and non calls. Though that was little to no consolation to WSU. The game still went down as a "Loss", despite the official mea culpa. All in all I think Cyclone fans ought to be optimistic for next season, this was a close loss to a good Cougar team (despite what a few here think), your Freshman quarter back looked pretty damned good for most of the game. Bowling next year for ISU seems almost a sure bet. It ought to be a good time to be a 'Clone.

Amusing that a troll would accuse us of "sour grapes" 12 hours after a loss, then proceeed on a diatribe on a loss the Coug's had 4 months ago.
Pot meet kettle.

 

[madguy30]

I thought he was as good as advertised. What more can you ask out of your quarterback than what he gave them?

Fiery guy, found the holes when we left them, and found a way to make a play at critical times when nothing was really there. I'd give Kyler Murray the edge over him, but similar to Murray, he turned enough negative plays into positives when they really needed it.

I have a lot of things to be annoyed about from last night, but Washington State was a good team, an interesting team, and a fun match up.

Yeah he's far from average and WSU is far from average too.

ISU played really, really hard and just didn't execute when needed. Movement on a 2 point conversion is almost impossible.

The bad missed calls were a problem but even with WSU's free points ISU wins this by 2 scores with better detail including d line staying in the lanes, penalties, etc.

 

[madguy30]

Bravo! BoxsterCy, the grapes certainly are sour around here, good to see that someone can concede that WSU had some hand in their own victory! As to the referee points which have been made ad nauseum, I think that in most cases it evens itself over a season. Some games you get the calls (though I do think the targeting penalties were legit, even though one of them likely could have been not made as the contact seemed almost inadvertent). Some games the fickle finger of fate goes against you. WSU emerged victorious this time narrowly but back in September they lost 39-36 in a game to USC in which even the Pac-12 conference acknowledged that they screwed up a couple of key calls and non calls. Though that was little to no consolation to WSU. The game still went down as a "Loss", despite the official mea culpa. All in all I think Cyclone fans ought to be optimistic for next season, this was a close loss to a good Cougar team (despite what a few here think), your Freshman quarter back looked pretty damned good for most of the game. Bowling next year for ISU seems almost a sure bet. It ought to be a good time to be a 'Clone.

Things even out, sure, and ISU had their chances outside of that, but in no way should a ref miss a lineman obviously moving prior to the snap.

 

[TSKCoug]

Just pointing out too that we have our own gripes, and the grapes were very sour for Cougs after the Apple Cup as well. But **** happens to all.

 

[Tornado man]

I don't know about better, plus it's the pac 12, but they were one strange snowstorm game away from final 4 consideration. Better by far than a loss to Memphis for instance. Would certainly be easier to take if we hadn't hurt oursel es so much I'd like to see things without that second comical targeting as well .

The "snowstorm" beat Wash State? Pretty sure Washington had to play in that too? And Petersen owns Leach...

 

[drmwevr08]

The "snowstorm" beat Wash State? Pretty sure Peterson owns Leach...

I'm not arguing that point, but in normal weather maybe the result is different. They don't deserve to be top 4 anyway, but they were up there.