Two Things Can Be True...Yet Seem Contradictory
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Osun has a nice touch and is a capable passer. He has decent hands, but isn't strong with the ball. Also doesn't seem to have the lower body strength to hold his ground in the post. However, I still wish he got the ball more often. Also wish he had 2 years in the program.
We trashed the rotation that had been successful because Grill injured his back.
Grill. We'll likely get a transfer SG and a transfer 4/5 though. I don't think anyone knows what the starting 5 will look like right now. Grill was having a great season pre-injury. Fans keep forgetting he's been playing at 50-75% for the last month and a half. He was at 42% from 3pt up to and including the Texas game where he was inured. Now he's dropped to 37%, which is still the best on the team.
Before the season, I predicted a 17-14, 6-12 season for the boys. For awhile there it looked like I was way off. But now that regression to the mean has set in, I was about dead on. Still more Big 12 wins than I thought, and the 17 projected wins did include the canceled Omaha game. I thought this was an NIT team at best. The last month has been a tough pill to swallow, but end of the day, this team has still exceeded expectations. Not quite to the level that they had been doing of course, but overall, the season has been a pretty big success for the program.
It is easy to be green with envy, though. If you look just a few hours to the south, there is a program at a similar school that was in a similar place to where ISU basketball was after the 2020-21 season. New coach and almost entirely new roster this year, and they have absolutely crushed it all year long. They upgraded quicker than we did and with better talent. Tang and K-State is who I'm referring to, if you haven't figured it out by now. Granted he is older than TJ and has more experience in everything besides head coaching. It is easy to look at them though, and be jealous of where they were at and where they've been able to get in such a short period of time relative to us. Our hole was a bit deeper perhaps, after Prohm, compared to K-State after Weber, but Tang for whatever reason has been able to string together a better roster in a very short time compared to TJ. It is so easy to both be appreciative of what TJ has done, but be jealous hat Tang and K-State have caught and lapped us. I hope they get upset early in the NCAA Tournament.
It is easy to be green with envy, though. If you look just a few hours to the south, there is a program at a similar school that was in a similar place to where ISU basketball was after the 2020-21 season. New coach and almost entirely new roster this year, and they have absolutely crushed it all year long. They upgraded quicker than we did and with better talent. Tang and K-State is who I'm referring to, if you haven't figured it out by now. Granted he is older than TJ and has more experience in everything besides head coaching. It is easy to look at them though, and be jealous of where they were at and where they've been able to get in such a short period of time relative to us. Our hole was a bit deeper perhaps, after Prohm, compared to K-State after Weber, but Tang for whatever reason has been able to string together a better roster in a very short time compared to TJ. It is so easy to both be appreciative of what TJ has done, but be jealous hat Tang and K-State have caught and lapped us. I hope they get upset early in the NCAA Tournament.
In the spirit of this post; the future is 'offensively' bright and without scorers you focus on defense to be competitive. Let's face it, the portal is more difficult to find 'scorers' in this new NIL market, but scrupulously can more easily find defenders. Now that TJ is addressing 'offense' on the recruiting trail, I am really optimistic about the future. That said, 'in game coaching'? hummm.
Granted Keyonte Johnson was a huge pickup, but Nowell was already there, correct? But yes, not doubting Tang is good, but we'll see if he does circles around us down the road.
Lol, yikes!!!! The guy that people leave wide open and struggles to hit the rim? What exactly is Kings purpose at this level then if he can't shoot?
He was/is an exceptional athlete on the court (and FB field, before his knee injury he had FB offers from like Notre Dame, etc.), he had some insane posters in high school. For his HS team, he kinda did everything. He'd run the offense, but was from a small town so he was also the biggest player on the roster - meaning he'd also sometimes be posting guys up and defended basically everyone.
It's very hard to find accurate statistics for HS games, but from the bits I've seen he got to the rim often and finished well around the rim with a variety of moves. Shooting from deep just was never his major thing and I'm not sure where the idea even came from for folks that it was his strength. I do think he's a good enough athlete and can see the vision, but it's a big leap from low level Minnesota HS to the B12.
Johnson is what separates us, IMO. Nowell might be the best or 2nd best PG in the Big 12, and is what makes them go, but we don't have an athlete in the same stratosphere as Johnson.
Are you confusing Tre King and Demarion Watson? Tre I'm pretty sure was born and raised in Kentucky, and attended Eastern Kentucky prior to his brief stop at Georgetown and now ISU.
He's talking about Eli King, I'm just wondering why he was brought here if he's an even worse shooter than Watson out of high school.
My dumb. Yeah, Idk what the deal is with Eli. I've heard the same about his 3 point shooting, that it wasn't really his game in HS. I am a bit miffed that we gave a scholarship to a guy who is short, can't shoot, has been slow to learn our defense, and doesn't play point guard. It does not seem like Eli will be a guy who returns next year, but I don't have any inside info on that.
Edit: and the jury might be out on the 'can't play point guard' element. Maybe he can, but you already recruited Tamin Lipsey in the same class, so it would seem pretty redundant if that's what they recruited Eli to do.
I think it’s almost solely because that upgraded talent includes a terrific experienced PG. To say the PG is the most important player in CBB is an understatement.
