UNI is rated #3 in all FCS
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You're kind of making his point. We barely beat them, so our fans will say "They're D1", but as we all know, D1 is split between two distinct levels. We could drop down the the Missouri Valley and still always play D1 teams I guess, but we all know there is a difference. Just because we now label this LOWER division D1- FCS doesn't change the fact that they are a lower level. Whether we call them that, or D1aa, it really doesn't matter.
Really? This is a website devoted to ISU athletics. I won't apologize for being unimpressed with our performance last week.
Do you think most fans of traditional top 25 programs would feel differently than I do after a 1 point win against an FCS team?
I'm not saying it's time to stick a fork in this season/team as we could certainly rebound. But I'm not impressed thus far.
Well, Iowa blocked two FGs in a row to beat UNI by 1 point, and then proceeded to win the first 9 wins (first time in school history). It's one game, and it's probably an anomaly.
Is Iowa State a traditional top 25 program? Are we even a top 50 program? Maybe we have been in certain seasons, but not historically. There is a lot of overlap between the top 10 FCS teams and the bottom 40 FBS teams. Hell, look at the other end of the spectrum - is there really even that big of a difference between teams 10 - 25 each year? Not a whole lot.
This site is actually devoted to fans of cyclone athletics, unimpressed cyclones should check out:
www.cyclonedowners.com
While that's all true, don't pretend that Iowa fans were expecting to win the next eight games. At the time, people were severely scaling back their expectations.
I'm not suggesting that ISU fans do the same, because as Iowa showed in 2009, one bad showing in week 1 against UNI doesn't doom the season. But it's perfectly understandable to be feeling down after a close call with an FCS team.
Touche. However, I was just trying to say that just because we only beat UNI by one, doesn't mean that we can't be successful from here on out. And no, I'm not expecting to win the first nine.
Well, I guess if we're going to relegate our program to bottom 40 status, then I should be OK with the UNI game.
I personally would like to see some raised expectations for ISU.
See, instead of getting all worked up about a game that nobody can do anything about other than ***** about the outcome, I'd prefer to focus on the next opponent. Outside of the fact that it's a W, I'm not exactly happy about the outcome of the game either. But harping on accountability about the way an FCS opponent was played in no way prepares the team to take on its next opponent - it only serves as a distraction.
Beating UNI by one does not mean the end of the world, but it is cause for concern, just like Iowa's close win over UNI two years ago was cause for concern. Now, in Iowa's case they turned it around and played very well the rest of the year,. I hope that is the case with this football team, but we shouldn't be happy about a one point win and try to play up how good UNI is.
CycloneErik
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You seem like a solid Cyclone fan, especially with last night's take that we really belong in the Missouri Valley, and that's all we can really aspire to be.
I am a pretty big Cyclone fan but its not us that relegate us to the bottom 40 program, its the history of the football team that has done it. You have to look at it realistically, we all aspire to be a better team (and in certain season are) and build a winning program but to this point we are in the bottom 40.
Yes, its UNI and we should have pounded them, if for no other reason, because they are an FCS team. Va Tech pounded their FCS team. We are not Va Tech. And, it was the first game of the season. Teams that are much more storied that ISU in terms of football success struggled quite a bit on their opening game as well. It doesn't matter who your opponent is, you are going to struggle to execute on your first game. Especially when you start with new players at key positions.
UNI isn't just another FCS team and I imagine they could beat any of the bottom 40 FBS teams on any given Saturday. That is the case year in and year out with them. However, we should have higher expectations than to be better than the bottom 40.
We really need to keep things in perspective regarding this game with UNI that we squeaked out:
1. First game of the season. It isn't like we are the only team that struggled with execution.
2. First DivI start for Steele Jantz
3. Our O-Line was not intact (we lack depth)
4. We gave the ball away 3 times in the redzone and still managed to win
5. When it mattered most, Jantz came through, which should translate into him being more comfortable down the road
KEY: I think we have MUCH more to happy about and look forward to with this victory than Iowa has with theirs.
UNI isn't just another FCS team and I imagine they could beat any of the bottom 40 FBS teams on any given Saturday. That is the case year in and year out with them. However, we should have higher expectations than to be better than the bottom 40.
We really need to keep things in perspective regarding this game with UNI that we squeaked out:
1. First game of the season. It isn't like we are the only team that struggled with execution.
2. First DivI start for Steele Jantz
3. Our O-Line was not intact (we lack depth)
4. We gave the ball away 3 times in the redzone and still managed to win
5. When it mattered most, Jantz came through, which should translate into him being more comfortable down the road
KEY: I think we have MUCH more to happy about and look forward to with this victory than Iowa has with theirs.
Give it a rest. It's not like you're adding anything to the conversation. What do you do to help improve ISU athletics, besides ******** anonymously on a website?
