Very Bizarre Joakim Noah Video

[ISUChippewa]

Where is the harm in him dancing people? For crying out loud, it's not like he took a swing at an opponent during a game or mooned the crowd. He did a silly, goofy dance! Hang him, hang him, he's a disgrace! Oh God, he's so horrible!

The level of outrage that people show towards him is completely disproportionate with what he actually has done. Christian Laettner stomping on an opponent during a game certainly earns outrage. Joakim Noah being silly does not.

 

[benjay]

Maybe you're taking it a little too personally?

The guy is a lightning rod for attention, and he does it on purpose. It should come as no surprise that much of that attention is negative. Apparently he is ok with that, so why aren't you?

 

[cowboycurtis]

His stupid little dance is just one of the many stupid things he has done. CBS is trying to get an interview and he starts dancing. When ISU scores a touchdown or wins a game do you see Blythe or Flynn or Meyer start dancing like a moron in front of the camera? No. They win with class as do most college atheletes. I didnt say hang him. I said I dont like him and I think he is an idiot. Maybe my outrage is a little much for the actions but I dont tolerate stupidity and he has shown his fare share. Forgive me for being "old school" but when you win do it with dignity and class

 

[wonkadog]

I can't stand him and he was the reason I rooted against Florida the entire tournament (a lot of good that did). How you can love his "intensity" and "heart" is beyond me. He yells like a caged monkey everytime he comes within 5 feet of a block and does the same if one of his teammates blocks a shot. For the record, I also thought Stinson was a ***** and could definitely see how opposing teams' fans would not like him.

 

[ISUChippewa]

IMO, Joakim Noah has done absolutely no harm to the college game by showing emotion, none whatsoever. Look, reasonable minds can disagree here; if you're "old school" and want your athletes to act with dignity after making a big play, that's your business.

For me personally, I love emotion in athletes and sports. H@ll, I like the end zone dances NFL players do, as long as they are not disrespectful to the opposing team. Benjay, you said maybe I am taking it too personally. I would contend that the people who make youtube.com videos of Noah calling him a transvestite are really the ones who are making it way too personal. I will admit I laughed a couple of times watching that, but I also thought it was very mean-spirited and immature.

Wonkadog, this might be presumptous of me, but if Jiri Hubalek played with the same "intensity" and "heart" as Noah did and showed it like that, you would defend him to the death.

To my knowledge, Noah has never been arrested or gotten into any sort of trouble off the court. There are unfortunately a great number of student-athletes who cannot say the same, and yet Noah is probably the most hated college basketball because he (gasp!) plays with emotion and acts like a goofy kid at times. I feel and think that fact is an absolute travesty.

 

[Cyclone62]

"He wanted to be pretty like his sister...... but he wasn't"

 

[SlyCy]

Here a [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5hq_IqHlOU&NR=1"]link[/ame] to a pretty awesome dunk over Noah.

 

[wonkadog]

Wonkadog, this might be presumptous of me, but if Jiri Hubalek played with the same "intensity" and "heart" as Noah did and showed it like that, you would defend him to the death.

It is indeed "presumptous" of you as I would not defend anyone that acts like this guy. Would I be as peeved if it was Jiri? Of course not, we all drink the Kool-Aid a little bit (or a lot). I can see you're one of the people that contribute to our degrading value of sportsmanship so I won't argue anymore, you're entitled to your opinion of Noah. I can see how you could like his spirit. It's antics like his, however, that are what lead to junior high basketball players talking trash to the other team and then their parents going nuts when an official has to give them a technical. "But everyone else on t.v. does it!"

 

[ISUChippewa]

Hey Wonkadog,

Now you're just coming across as an arrogant, pompous tool. "I can see you're one of the people that contribute to our degrading value of sportsmanship so I won't aruge anymore...."

We've never met. You don't know me and you don't know jack about me, so shut your pie hole when it comes to my sense of "sportsmanship", pal.

It sounds like you blaming one particularly visible player for the decline of moral values in junior high athletes, which is just stupid. There are a LOT of college players who talk just as much if not more trash than Noah, they just don't get mean-spirited youtube videos made up about them.

 

[CloneFan65]

The day the college players aren't allowed to show emotion is the day I stop watching. I'm glad you guys have never seen me dance, you'd probably think I'm a "jackass" too.

 

[HILLCYD]

There are a LOT of college players who talk just as much if not more trash than Noah, they just don't get mean-spirited youtube videos made up about them.

I don't think anyone is saying that he responsible for the trash talking problem, I think we are just saying that he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He better leave school early cuz I don't see him graduating.

 

[ISUChippewa]

Look, I know I'm in the minority here with liking Noah. But, cys_av8r, Noah actually comes across as a pretty smart kid. One of the reasons I do like him is because he, along with the rest of the team, all passed up NBA millions to return to school, play together again, and defend their championship. In my eyes, that deserves a lot of respect. I live in Florida, so I get a lot of Florida universitites sports coverage. Noah has been quoted numerous times on how much he enjoys college life and the classes he's taking. I also think he speaks at least two or three languages, hardly the stereotypical "dumb jock" athlete.

 

[tolar]

Now do not get me wrong, I am not a Noah fan or a dancing fan.
If Iowa State ever wins a national chanpionship, I will go on national tv in a g-string and dance. Trust me it will not be a pretty site.

Nothing wrong with a little humor.

 

[cybsball20]

"Joakim is a people person, he enjoys being around people. He has an enthusiasm for life that's so refreshing. He's very much opinionated. Wait, that isn't the right word. He's very, very well-versed. Let's say politics or things that are going on in the country and the world - he likes debating these things. I remember seeing him and [associate head coach] Anthony Grant and they were having a healthy discussion about politics. That' not something you always see." - Florida coach Billy Donovan


"Joakim Noah's favourite course last semester was called the 'Africa Diaspora'. Noah admitted, "the workload was unbelievable" — but, he added: "I felt that I learned a lot."

If there is one place where learning shows, it is in sport. The academic courses that Noah and Al Horford and Corey Brewer have taken by returning to college for a second year, rather than turn professional, have been hailed sentimentally as a reaffirmation of the good old days, when college players stayed around for four years. And maybe, in some modest way, it was."

Doesnt sound entirely like a kid that isn't too sharp... He is also well traveled, speaks three languages and does a ton of community work... I can think of alot of other kids to hate...

 

[wonkadog]

Hey Wonkadog,

Now you're just coming across as an arrogant, pompous tool. "I can see you're one of the people that contribute to our degrading value of sportsmanship so I won't aruge anymore...."

We've never met. You don't know me and you don't know jack about me, so shut your pie hole when it comes to my sense of "sportsmanship", pal.

It sounds like you blaming one particularly visible player for the decline of moral values in junior high athletes, which is just stupid. There are a LOT of college players who talk just as much if not more trash than Noah, they just don't get mean-spirited youtube videos made up about them.

I wasn't saying Noah is contributing by himself, but he along with others that support this excessive "look at me" attitude are definitely not helping things. Young kids watch this kind of stuff and consider it acceptable behavior. I also think it is plausible to insinuate things from people's posts on these forums. For example, I can insinuate that from your last post that I am not going to get anywhere debating this with you since you resorted to the "don't know jack" and "pie hole" comments.

 

[KLoISU02]

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like everytime I have seen Noah on TV, Donovan is trying to restrain him or tell him to settle down. Like him or not, that dance he did is just too hilarious...in a laugh at him sort of way.:wink0st:

 

[tube1]

His hair is 'look at me' enough. He certianly doesn't need to extend it to his Elaine Benes dance moves too.

 

[radcliffechuck]

It is indeed "presumptous" of you as I would not defend anyone that acts like this guy. Would I be as peeved if it was Jiri? Of course not, we all drink the Kool-Aid a little bit (or a lot). I can see you're one of the people that contribute to our degrading value of sportsmanship so I won't argue anymore, you're entitled to your opinion of Noah. !"

I'm confused, does that mean that if it were a guy on the teams you liked, you would also be contributing to the degrading value of sportsmanship? It seems like if we were in court and I were your lawyer, I'd have my head buried in my hands right about now.

 

[HILLCYD]

"I can think of alot of other kids to hate...

Me too, but he makes it soooooo easy...

 

[wonkadog]

I'm confused, does that mean that if it were a guy on the teams you liked, you would also be contributing to the degrading value of sportsmanship? It seems like if we were in court and I were your lawyer, I'd have my head buried in my hands right about now.

Yes, if the guy were on a team I liked and I supported him acting like a moron while on the court then yes, I think I would indirectly be supporting that type of behavior. If you take the earlier Stinson example, I said that even though I love ISU, I did not love or condone the babyish attitude that Stinson displayed at times. Thus, in that situation, I was not contributing to the downfall of sportsmanship in our society. :nerd6bs: