Vette
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I Don't Think Vette Can Red-Shirt
I don't believe the redshirt rule is any different between FB & MBB. If a kid plays he can't be redshirted.
A player can receive a medical redshirt if he is injured and the injury prohibits him from playing. The rule used to be a player couldn't play in more than 20% of his team's contests to receive a medical redshirt. That rule was recently increased to 30% of his teams contests. The other part of the rule is they cannont play past the mid-point of the season.
I agree with the other poster on redshirting hoops players, if the staff doesn't see potential to be a starter- redshirting doesn't make sense. Vette's very young and it might be impossible for the staff to project his ability 2-3 years from now, but if there is doubt don't redshirt him.
Also, unless Thompson starts to show something- we might need Vette. Also with the injury bug, we don't have much depth at any position.
I don't believe the redshirt rule is any different between FB & MBB. If a kid plays he can't be redshirted.
A player can receive a medical redshirt if he is injured and the injury prohibits him from playing. The rule used to be a player couldn't play in more than 20% of his team's contests to receive a medical redshirt. That rule was recently increased to 30% of his teams contests. The other part of the rule is they cannont play past the mid-point of the season.
I agree with the other poster on redshirting hoops players, if the staff doesn't see potential to be a starter- redshirting doesn't make sense. Vette's very young and it might be impossible for the staff to project his ability 2-3 years from now, but if there is doubt don't redshirt him.
Also, unless Thompson starts to show something- we might need Vette. Also with the injury bug, we don't have much depth at any position.
I talked to coach mac a few weeks ago and he made it sound that Vette could play in exhibition games and then they could redshirt him but as soon as he played in an actual season game then he had to redshirt.
Actually, I thought the rules in baskeball were different from FB. In BB you could only play in a very small number or very small percentage of games. Or play a only less than a certain number of minutes. So actually I don't recall the specifics.
But I thought a player could indeed play in 1-2 games and as long as they didn't get major minutes (like play the whole game) they still could be redshirted. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe the rules changed, but I'm pretty sure that is the way it used to be. Unless I'm wrong, Vette could even play tonight and if Mac thinks there is no way he will contribute this year could still be redshirted.
But I thought a player could indeed play in 1-2 games and as long as they didn't get major minutes (like play the whole game) they still could be redshirted. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe the rules changed, but I'm pretty sure that is the way it used to be. Unless I'm wrong, Vette could even play tonight and if Mac thinks there is no way he will contribute this year could still be redshirted.
My post above with the NCAA rule in it seems to state that in any sport, as soon as a player sets foot on the court in a regular season, the chance of redshirting is gone.
You are correct. If you play one minute, you cannot take a voluntary, non-injury related redshirt.
The confusion probably stems from the medical redshirt rule. If you play, and get injured, you can receive a medical redshirt as long as you have played in less that 30% of the total regular season games. This was changed four years ago, it used to be 20% of total games.
If a player were to be injured, there is some gray area space around what constitutes a serious enough injury to justify a medical hardship. For example, if Clayton were to sprain his ankle, then not play again for the year, he probably would be able to qualify for a medical redshirt. There isn't a lot of scrutiny surrounding the first medical redshirt, providing that it meets the 30% rule. A second medical redshirt will have a lot of scrutiny, and is not often allowed.
My understanding, in discussing this with several D-1 assistants/recruiters over the last several years, is that overstated/lying (whatever your euphemism is) for medical redshirt happens more often than you think. It's really tough to prove a sprained ankle isn't bad enough to keep you out for the season, due to the various levels of severity in a sprain. But i've also been told that unless you've got a broken bone or have been in a car accident for the first medical redshirt, don't expect a second one, even if you have (a broken bone or car accident). So you're rolling the dice if you claim medical redshirt for something questionable, because if you have a real problem later in your career, you won't get any sympathy from the NCAA.
In the end though if you lie to get the first medical redshit after "trying out" the player in competition, it isn't all that more difficult to get the second medical redshirt than it is anytime to get a 6th year of play after redshirting as a freshman and then needing a legit medical redshirt as say a junior. That's what has always been the difficult part of the second redshirt, albeit its gotten alot easier over the years. It used to be impossible.
