Vikings win ugly

[Mr Janny]

yeah, I'm not really sure that you can make a rule about not posting spoilers for sports games. Especially NFL games. I mean, ESPN.com puts it on Page 1. CBSSportsline does it too. It is public knowledge put on a primetime stage. The world doesn't stop just because I may be watching on a delay. That's the risk you run when you watch a live event on a delay. Now take something like a book or a movie, and you might have a point, but live sports? Being discussed on a Sports Themed Message Board? Come on. Take a little responsibilty for your browsing habits.

 

[cytech]

I was at the game, and I really wish my first NFL game could of been a little more exciting, but man does that dome get loud.
The bears defense looked pretty good and so did the vikings. But the vikings really tried giving that game to the bears on a silver platter and they still couldn't move the ball.

 

[Jables22]

I can take a few things away from this game (as a vikes fan):

Negative: T-Jack takes 2 steps back in his progression. He looked confused at times and didn't move out of the pocket much. Looked like he may have wilted a little under the bright primetime lights. Bears D played pretty well. They copied what San Fran's D did and had 8+ people in the box. Urlacher was in MVP form. Winfield got hurt again. Offense looked like the one from early in the season.

Positives: In the 4 games prior to this one they never really grinded out a win. Showed some grit with the game on the line in the 4th quarter. D make neckbeard look like his old self (not sure how much of an accomplishment this is). Refs seemed to be calling the game the right way (as in completely slanted too the home team :wink. Childress remembered to just run the gd ball.

 

[superdorf]

I can take a few things away from this game (as a vikes fan):

Negative: T-Jack takes 2 steps back in his progression. He looked confused at times and didn't move out of the pocket much. Looked like he may have wilted a little under the bright primetime lights. Bears D played pretty well. They copied what San Fran's D did and had 8+ people in the box. Urlacher was in MVP form. Winfield got hurt again. Offense looked like the one from early in the season.

Positives: In the 4 games prior to this one they never really grinded out a win. Showed some grit with the game on the line in the 4th quarter. D make neckbeard look like his old self (not sure how much of an accomplishment this is). Refs seemed to be calling the game the right way (as in completely slanted too the home team :wink. Childress remembered to just run the gd ball.

Agreed... It is too bad that Orton didn't play a little better. If he can light it up till the end of the season he can probably start at #1 next year.

Hopefully there will be a good QB available when the Bears #1 pick rolls around.

 

[jbhtexas]

Negative: T-Jack takes 2 steps back in his progression. He looked confused at times and didn't move out of the pocket much. Looked like he may have wilted a little under the bright primetime lights. Bears D played pretty well. They copied what San Fran's D did and had 8+ people in the box.

I expect for the Vikes to see that 8+ in-the-box defense for all remaining games that they play. It will be up to TJ to make some good decisions to pull the defense out of it.

The spotlight will be bright on TJ again this Sunday, as the Vikes are the flex game and will be on Sunday night. Time for TJ to now take 3 steps forward.

 

[wonkadog]

And you Bears fans all wondered why Sexy Rexy was the starting QB. Brian Griese has never had a prime and doesn't appear as if he's going to develop one anytime soon, and last nite those of you clamoring for Orton all season found out why he's the 3rd string QB.

I don't think many of us were wondering why Grossman was starting, he has the biggest upside. We all knew Griese was flat-out average and I didn't ever hear any Bears fans clamoring for Orton unless they were SE Polk grads or something...we all know that he isn't anything special.

On a side note, does anyone else get sick of some NFL announcers shoving different teams' star players down your throat? Last night I thought I was going to go nuts having to listen to all the A.P. talk, I almost forgot there was a game going on...I thought I had turned on an A.P. tribute show instead. And to show that I'm not completely biased, I also get sick of hearing about Hester every time he looks at the field. I guess it gets old because we all know who's good, no need to constantly remind us of how perfect they are in every way.

 

[Mr Janny]

Urlacher was in MVP form.

How scary was he? Man, that guy was everywhere. How did the Vikings Multiple All-Pro center, Matt Birk let him blitz right up the middle and sack T-Jack twice? Once is bad, but twice?

 

[c.y.c.l.o.n.e.s]

I don't think many of us were wondering why Grossman was starting, he has the biggest upside. We all knew Griese was flat-out average and I didn't ever hear any Bears fans clamoring for Orton unless they were SE Polk grads or something...we all know that he isn't anything special.

On a side note, does anyone else get sick of some NFL announcers shoving different teams' star players down your throat? Last night I thought I was going to go nuts having to listen to all the A.P. talk, I almost forgot there was a game going on...I thought I had turned on an A.P. tribute show instead. And to show that I'm not completely biased, I also get sick of hearing about Hester every time he looks at the field. I guess it gets old because we all know who's good, no need to constantly remind us of how perfect they are in every way.

I would rather they do that than endlessly rip on the QBs like they did last night. Hey announcers - how about giving two pretty stout defenses some credit for making them look even worse than they actually are? And, those two horrible QBs put up 20 and 13 points which isn't that far off of the NFL average? I get why they were saying what they said, but at some point they needed to just drop it and get on with announcing the game.

 

[CTTB78]

Chilly needs to come out throw the first 3 out of 4 plays if they are going to key on All Day. If 'Sasser can get wide open like he did, the plays are there for TJack and he should not have to make great decisions. Those should come from the sideline.
Sorry in advance is any of this violates today's TIVO sensitive population.

 

[Mr Janny]

Chilly need to come out throw the first 3 out of 4 plays if they are going to key on All Day. If 'Sasser can get wide open like he did, the plays are there for TJack and he should not have to make great decisions. Those should come from the sideline.
Sorry in advance is any of this violates today's TIVO sensitive population.

I'm with you. Put AD in with Richardson, and just run play action for the first 4-5 plays. Nothing short of Hep-C pulls safeties and linebackers out of the box faster then a few deep post routes.

 

[Ficklone02]

yeah, I'm not really sure that you can make a rule about not posting spoilers for sports games. Especially NFL games. I mean, ESPN.com puts it on Page 1. CBSSportsline does it too. It is public knowledge put on a primetime stage. The world doesn't stop just because I may be watching on a delay. That's the risk you run when you watch a live event on a delay. Now take something like a book or a movie, and you might have a point, but live sports? Being discussed on a Sports Themed Message Board? Come on. Take a little responsibilty for your browsing habits.

I agree full-heartedly.

As for the game, I really hope Sidney Rice is not seriously hurt. He is the deep threat the Vikes need to keep the safeties honest....like Steve Young was saying post-game, if Jackson is going to face single safeties from here on out, he ought to be able to make decisive and effective decisions with that many guys in the box.

 

[Erik4Cy]

How many days after the game until it can be mentioned in a thread title?

I just want to make sure I know what this "common courtesy" is.

not trying to sound like a _____ here. but if you don't know what common courtsey is, you prolly never will. Like I said I can't force or make you NOT post a title like this. I am just saying there are some people who would title this different for other people. I know I would just make it Bears/Vikings or some form of that just because I don't like to put anything in my threads that could even be CONSIDERED "spoilers." Do I mess up and occasionally do this? yes, but I usually try to get it changed because I don't like to come off that I post that way. It's just one of those little things like: I don't want to be "THAT GUY" who is walking out of a movie telling people in line to see that same movie that the main character dies at the end...

as for the Bears/Vikes game...wow, Bears you need to go get Seneca. I am like 99% sure that the Bears QB next year IS NOT currently on their roster...maybe just throw Hester there so he can run around with the ball and see what happens.

As for the Vikes, as a Cowboys fan - I do NOT want to run into you in the playoffs, I am actually more scared of Minnesota right now than Green Bay. It's all about getting hot at the right time in the NFL and that is something Minnesota has never really had at the end of seasons, but maybe this is them bucking the trend?

 

[Mr Janny]

not trying to sound like a _____ here. but if you don't know what common courtsey is, you prolly never will. Like I said I can't force or make you NOT post a title like this. I am just saying there are some people who would title this different for other people. I know I would just make it Bears/Vikings or some form of that just because I don't like to put anything in my threads that could even be CONSIDERED "spoilers." Do I mess up and occasionally do this? yes, but I usually try to get it changed because I don't like to come off that I post that way. It's just one of those little things like: I don't want to be "THAT GUY" who is walking out of a movie telling people in line to see that same movie that the main character dies at the end...

I don't think that courtesy comes into play when it comes to a live Sporting Event that is broadcast as widely as MNF. I have a DVR, and there are times that I record sporting events, and if I don't want the outcome spoiled for me, it is my responsibity to make it so. I don't listen to the radio. I don't watch ESPN. And I certainly don't go to sports sites on the internet. Why should my expectations of secrecy be forced upon others? That's completely unreasonable. Once the game is over, it's free game. The world could care less if I haven't watched it yet, nor should it. It's nobody's responsibility but mine. Suggesting that thousands of people on a sports message board should refrain from posting items of public record that have already occured, is ridiculous.

 

[flynnhicks03]

How many days after the game until it can be mentioned in a thread title?

I just want to make sure I know what this "common courtesy" is.

In my opinion, there is no reason to ever post "Vikes Win", or "20-13" or anything like that in the thread title. As someone mentioned in an earlier thread, "Bears/Vikes" or something would actually cover all discussion of this particular topic, whether it be 2 minutes after the game, or 2 weeks after game. Again, you're going to post how you want to post, but this is just a tip from a guy who spends way too much time on message boards. Later.

 

[flynnhicks03]

I don't think that courtesy comes into play when it comes to a live Sporting Event that is broadcast as widely as MNF. I have a DVR, and there are times that I record sporting events, and if I don't want the outcome spoiled for me, it is my responsibity to make it so. I don't listen to the radio. I don't watch ESPN. And I certainly don't go to sports sites on the internet. Why should my expectations of secrecy be forced upon others? That's completely unreasonable. Once the game is over, it's free game. The world could care less if I haven't watched it yet, nor should it. It's nobody's responsibility but mine. Suggesting that thousands of people on a sports message board should refrain from posting items of public record that have already occured, is ridiculous.

I'm not trying to prevent discussion of the game. You can post a play-by-play recap of the entire game for all I care, streaming video of post-game celebrations, whatever, just don't post spoiler-type material in the thread title. Seriously, you guys are acting like I'm trying to revoke your 5th Amendment rights.

 

[Wesley]

Maybe the thread started should have named his thread wioth alternative options:

"Bears Not Doing Very Well at All w/o a QB"

"Vikings Looking Potentially Positive for the Playoffs"

"Bad News Bears Scrambling for their Lives against Vikings"

"Vikings Hanging on for Dear Life (Spoilers Within)"

Have a nice day.

 

[tube1]

How about I post a "Vikings beat Redskins" thread today? Or is that too early too?

It will save the TIVO guys some time. They won't even have to program their boxes then.

 

[Mr Janny]

I'm not trying to prevent discussion of the game. You can post a play-by-play recap of the entire game for all I care, streaming video of post-game celebrations, whatever, just don't post spoiler-type material in the thread title. Seriously, you guys are acting like I'm trying to revoke your 5th Amendment rights.

My point is that coming to a sports message board with the expectation to not see anything relating to a game that has already ended is unreasonable. Frankly, you're just not that special. In fact, no one is that special. Personally, I wouldn't post a thread with a "spoiler" title, but that does not mean that I can expect everyone else to do so. Message boards, and the internet in general serve the purpose of spreading information. I can't help it if you don't like the information that you find. Not my problem. Sorry if that sounds crass, but them's the brakes.
In addition, I am totally upset about my 5th amendment rights. I plan on perjuring myself several times in the future, and was counting on having those around.

 

[Erik4Cy]

I don't think that courtesy comes into play when it comes to a live Sporting Event that is broadcast as widely as MNF. I have a DVR, and there are times that I record sporting events, and if I don't want the outcome spoiled for me, it is my responsibity to make it so. I don't listen to the radio. I don't watch ESPN. And I certainly don't go to sports sites on the internet. Why should my expectations of secrecy be forced upon others? That's completely unreasonable. Once the game is over, it's free game. The world could care less if I haven't watched it yet, nor should it. It's nobody's responsibility but mine. Suggesting that thousands of people on a sports message board should refrain from posting items of public record that have already occured, is ridiculous.

no one is taking away your right to do this, i am just a genuinely courteous person, you might not be, and that's fine, i mean w/e for you, like i've said a bunch before - I can't STOP you from posting a thread name like this, so please STOP acting like I am trying to do that. My only point is that it is just a TINY, TINY thing people can do to be nice and avoid anything spoiler related on this great site.

I mean you cannot argue that it NEEDED to be titled this, there is no reason you could not have just titled it Bears/Vikings and then people could have read on and no one would have to talk about people's courtesy/lack thereof.

I now bet a minority of people on this website will start threads with spoilers in the name just to SPITE this thread. (Cybookie anyone?) And ya know what, nobody can stop you. Enjoy your freedom. But don't deny acting like pompous child about not needing to be "courteous" or have any "manors."

-finished-

 

[Wx4Cy]

I apologize in advance if i am reigniting something, but I agree with flynnhicks03 on that subject. I suppose no one can make a rule or tell someone not to post a thread title like this one...but IMO I believe that this is one of those internet common courtesy things and people should at least try to avoid doing this. Plus if you are the creator and actually want people to read it, you are better off going with an ambiguous title.

So just do what SportsCenter does when ESPN tape delays a broadcast. Tell people to look away and then show the score. Preface the title with "look away if you don't want to know score" and then you're off the hook. If people look, then they've been warned.

I'll bet you folks are all in a tizy during the olympics when the events take place 1/2 around the world and are over 12 hours before they hit the air here.