What does McDermott have to change from here on out?

[Clone5]

Nice! I agree.

Seriously though, he needs to dress up in a mock-turtle neck with an adidas logo on it (black) - and coach with emotion like Larry.

Or just travel down to Miss. St and ask Larry if he would like to switch. Either or....I would be comfortable with.

Yes because LE has been so well down there.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

I really like that team identity theme. I think a great frustration with our team under GMAC comes from the unknown. From game to game we never know what we are going to get. Look at a team like Wisconsin... Under Bo Ryan you know exactly what you are going to get from them. They don't play "pretty" basketball. It's going to be ugly, they are going to be extremely physical and beat you down with their D. They play low scoring games and typically their opponents come out of that game looking like they were in a bar fight. Their opponents know exactly what they are going to get from Wisconsin everytime they play them. They never know which guy is going to score for the Badgers or what they are going to do offensively but they sure as hell know that they are in for a war and that they will be lucky to put 50 points on the scoreboard.

 

[tazclone]

I really like that team identity theme. I think a great frustration with our team under GMAC comes from the unknown. From game to game we never know what we are going to get. Look at a team like Wisconsin... Under Bo Ryan you know exactly what you are going to get from them. They don't play "pretty" basketball. It's going to be ugly, they are going to be extremely physical and beat you down with their D. They play low scoring games and typically their opponents come out of that game looking like they were in a bar fight. Their opponents know exactly what they are going to get from Wisconsin everytime they play them. They never know which guy is going to score for the Badgers or what they are going to do offensively but they sure as hell know that they are in for a war and that they will be lucky to put 50 points on the scoreboard.

Exactly. teams know exactly what we will do every time we come up court. Brackins will post up or try to post up, and we will force the ball into him. they will do everything to take away passing lanes ,bring the double from different angles and then jump the kick out. We play right into our opponents hands

 

[tjk4isu]

So all you guys want to go up tempo with 7 schollarship players. Interesting. Not onlythat we aren't exactly stellar at pressing or running.[/QUOTE]

We are terrible at half court defense, especially DG on the opposing point guard. We seem to start every game slow and every 2 nd half slow. I did not say we should press for 40 minutes. All I ask is to try something different because what we are currently doing is obviously not the answer.

 

[IowaSTATCyclone]

There are fast break teams, slow-down teams, shooting teams, foul line times, three-point teams, smart teams, gimmick teams, athletic teams, fast teams, mean teams, strong teams, home court teams heck, even fundamental teams.

We aren't any of those. It is so weird for a school that clung to identity (and it isn't a set thing - Orr was home court, Floyd was defense, Eustachy smart, Morgan fast) through so many coaches to go so long without one.

Obviously, I'm oversimplifying, but I think there's a kernel of truth in this.

 

[Wesley]

I don't agree with a full game full court press mentality, our numbers are very limited...I could see some of it here and there though. The main thing to me is to give your opponent some different looks, force them to adjust to you. One way to do that is by switching defenses.

Then we must not be in very good shape. If we do not press and stand around on defense, we will lose. Okie had 7 players and put out the energy and survived. The one guard had three minutes off inthe three games. I just think pell mell is more suited to our lackidaisical defnse. If we guarded the perimeter well I would not be saying this. It is very easy to shoot over our team.

 

[Wesley]

So all you guys want to go up tempo with 7 schollarship players. Interesting. Not onlythat we aren't exactly stellar at pressing or running.[/QUOTE]

We are terrible at half court defense, especially DG on the opposing point guard. We seem to start every game slow and every 2 nd half slow. I did not say we should press for 40 minutes. All I ask is to try something different because what we are currently doing is obviously not the answer.

We may have the worst half court defense that we have had in decades. People dribble right through us. We never follow. We never stop a three point shot. We do not position for rebounds. We are beat on timeout plays. We do not backfill for others. We are picked off.

 

[ripvdub]

Defense and guard play. Thats what need to get better at. I am hoping that Demarcus Phillips turns out to be a Mike Taylor clone. Add him and Diante, and with Colvin and Christopherson a year older, that will help. College bball is all about guards. We havent had depth and quality since Stinson/Blalock.

 

[Bigguns]

learn how to be a leader of men and get them to go to war for you. period.

I agree that either they need to start laying it on the line for him or for each other. "Unite or Die". I also think it is 100% on him if they don't do that. He has to be a lot of things as a head coach and 1 of them is psychologist.

3. Sounds gay but have fun. When we were beating the crap out of people early on the guys were having a riot out there. I know it's fun to win and the competition was weak but I have not seen any enjoyment out of these guys in awhile. Let loose and just play.

If he can make the above happen fun and winning will follow. He needs to pull a guy if they make a stupid mistake due to lack of focus, but not if they make mistakes due to effort. Right now it seems he doesn't do either.

 

[everyyard]

His job.

 

[CyCrazy]

His job.

oh no you didnt.... but seriously your right

 

[LoyalSon]

Exactly. teams know exactly what we will do every time we come up court. Brackins will post up or try to post up, and we will force the ball into him. they will do everything to take away passing lanes ,bring the double from different angles and then jump the kick out. We play right into our opponents hands

This is exactly right. We need to be the initiators for once. We need to set the tempo, catch them off-guard, surprise them with something unexpected or something new... ISU always seems to be the team that has to react to what the opposition is doing, and we are usually about 5 or so minutes late in that reaction (example: start of the 2nd half vs. Texas). We need to be the "Hammer" and not the "Nail" and dictate what we want to happen before they get into their flow.

 

[CycloneErik]

This is exactly right. We need to be the initiators for once. We need to set the tempo, catch them off-guard, surprise them with something unexpected or something new... ISU always seems to be the team that has to react to what the opposition is doing, and we are usually about 5 or so minutes late in that reaction (example: start of the 2nd half vs. Texas). We need to be the "Hammer" and not the "Nail" and dictate what we want to happen before they get into their flow.

I do have trouble arguing with this. Sometimes you have to react, and that's great, but sometimes you have to impose yourself. We do struggle with that.

 

[cyclonenum1]

I really like that team identity theme. I think a great frustration with our team under GMAC comes from the unknown. From game to game we never know what we are going to get. Look at a team like Wisconsin... Under Bo Ryan you know exactly what you are going to get from them. They don't play "pretty" basketball. It's going to be ugly, they are going to be extremely physical and beat you down with their D. They play low scoring games and typically their opponents come out of that game looking like they were in a bar fight. Their opponents know exactly what they are going to get from Wisconsin everytime they play them. They never know which guy is going to score for the Badgers or what they are going to do offensively but they sure as hell know that they are in for a war and that they will be lucky to put 50 points on the scoreboard.

I think this is a result of GM having a "defensive" coaching mindset as opposed to an "offensive" coaching mindset. I am not talking about defensive and offensive strategies here.

What I mean by this is that GM looks at our opponent and says what do we have to do to stop x, y, and z that our opponent does. A coach like Orr looked at our opponent and said we are going to try and do x, y, and z...let our opponent try to stop this.

With the defensive mindset you will necessarily have to change because opponents vary...with the offensive mindset you just try to impose your strengths on the opponent...your strengths typically remain constant.

Let me give you an example, back in the day, Johnny had Lafester playing "center". If GM had that ISU team from back in the day and had to play today's UT team he would probably sit Lafester because he would look and say Lafester just can't match up on either end with Pittman. Orr would look at it and say we're going to see if that fat SOB Pittman can keep up with Lafester.

 

[CTTB78]

If we have a player that will not play defense, or throws the ball away because he can, sit their a$$ on the bench.

 

[urb1]

If we have a player that will not play defense, or throws the ball away because he can, sit their a$$ on the bench.

And everyone will say, "But we can't substitute, because we have no depth!" However, how many times do you get pulled and a freshman goes in for you before you start to learn? Nothing is learned when there are no ramifications to bad play!

 

[ajk4st8]

And everyone will say, "But we can't substitute, because we have no depth!" However, how many times do you get pulled and a freshman goes in for you before you start to learn? Nothing is learned when there are no ramifications to bad play!

No depth is Macs fault too. Horrible recruiting.

Injuries? Well JVB was a set back.. but seriously.. how many teams does Boozer get great minutes and a lot of points for in the Big 12. The rest has just been bad recruiting.

 

[dualforce]

I think this is a result of GM having a "defensive" coaching mindset as opposed to an "offensive" coaching mindset. I am not talking about defensive and offensive strategies here.

What I mean by this is that GM looks at our opponent and says what do we have to do to stop x, y, and z that our opponent does. A coach like Orr looked at our opponent and said we are going to try and do x, y, and z...let our opponent try to stop this.

With the defensive mindset you will necessarily have to change because opponents vary...with the offensive mindset you just try to impose your strengths on the opponent...your strengths typically remain constant.

Let me give you an example, back in the day, Johnny had Lafester playing "center". If GM had that ISU team from back in the day and had to play today's UT team he would probably sit Lafester because he would look and say Lafester just can't match up on either end with Pittman. Orr would look at it and say we're going to see if that fat SOB Pittman can keep up with Lafester.

This exactly! When I see this mindset change, I will believe that this program can move forward. Isn't it possible to have a gameplan on both ends? It always seems like McDermott talks about what we have to do to stop the other teams best players...

 

[Bigguns]

Nice! I agree.

Seriously though, he needs to dress up in a mock-turtle neck with an adidas logo on it (black) - and coach with emotion like Larry.

Or just travel down to Miss. St and ask Larry if he would like to switch. Either or....I would be comfortable with.

Maybe he should break out the Natty Light. My daughter will be in college next year Larry needs to stay away from Ames.