What I wouldn't give to have Iowa's schedule right now!
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I think that it is disgusting that Illinois is 5-0 probably 6-0 after today (playing Indiana) and they have played garbage besides Arizona State in Champaign. I look forward to the bowl match ups of XII teams vs. B1G teams.
Crying? Who's crying? Do you have cameras in peoples houses? That's kind of creepy, dude...
You're right that conferences are pretty cyclical. The main argument that ISU fans are trying to make here is that when ISU has its best team in the past 5 years, it comes when the Big 12 is strong and the schedule is really difficult and we're not in divisions anymore.
In comparison, Iowa will have 8 wins this year, and to the casual football fan that doesn't pay much attention to such things, Iowa will look like they fielded a good team this year. 8-9 wins, pending how the bounces go. Whereas most Hawk fans would agree that this team is nowhere near the level that last year's team was. Granted, last years team preformed worse, but strictly off wins, this will probably end up looking like a better year for Iowa.
For me, it's not so much a complaint, just the way things are.
Ok, enough is enough...
Quit crying. Quit your jealousy. I'm sorry you can't ever win and won't ever win.
And I'm going to let you in on a secret...
You won't ever win and haven't ever won because you don't have talent. Not because your schedule is so tough. Your schedule is so tough because you don't have to play yourself every year. Crappy teams have tough schedules because they replace a game with a crappy team with a game against a good team, since they can't play themselves. For example, Oklahoma would likely play a weaker schedule than Iowa State because in one of the games on their schedule, Oklahoma plays Iowa State, while Iowa State plays Oklahoma.
Here's the thing...
Iowa is better than Iowa State darn near every year because, well.... Iowa has better players. Sorry, it's true. And your jealousy of Iowa is pathetic. This constant nonsense about the Big-10 is a joke. You guys have an inferiority complex, and threads like this only prove my point.
Is the Big-10 weak this year? Is water wet? I don't think anyone in their right mind could argue otherwise. Is Iowa going to take advantage of that? I hope so. We will know as the season progresses.
Would ISU fare better over the past decade in the Big-10 than Big-12? No. Sorry, but you wouldn't have. A bad team is a bad team. Conference strength doesn't change that. The Big-12 North has been horrible for a decade and ISU still couldn't manage to find their way into the conference championship game once. You had 4-5 easy conference games every year, 3 weak OOC opponents, and the best you could do was 7 wins in any of those years. So what makes you think joining the Big-10 would have changed anything? If your argument is "well, the Big-10 has tons of bad teams", here's my rebuttal.... the Big-12 also has bad teams AND ISU has consistently lost to MANY of those (i.e. Baylor, Okie State and Mizzou before they got good, Kansas, etc.). You are only a toss-up against most bad teams. So how does joining an alleged weaker conference make your record any better?
As for this year...
The Big-12 isn't any good either. You have 2 great teams in the conference (OU, Okie State) and the rest is nothing special, mostly mediocre. Wow, congrats on having so many ranked teams. Too bad most of them are actually lousy. Texas is horrible. And that's an understatement. Iowa would beat Texas by 17........in Austin. K-State is terrible. Baylor is a 1-man team. A&M is pretty good, but they are basically this year's version of 2010 Iowa - a bunch of chokers. Who else is ANY good? Mizzou? I laughed. Taco Tech? lol? Kansas? haha! Iowa State? Never have been.
You have 2 games against great teams in a 12 game schedule and you're whining about the schedule? This is why you are, and always will be Iowa State.
Now, ISU did beat Iowa on the field. And they were most certainly better on that day. Is ISU the better team? No. But they're close enough in talent to beat Iowa at home in a rivalry game the 2nd week of the season. You won a game by 3 points in 3 OT's at home the 2nd week of the year. Iowa will end up winning more games than Iowa State.... many more games. Not because of the schedule. Because they have a lot more upside than Iowa State due to a boatload more talent. And because of that upside, Iowa will improve as the season progresses, while ISU will remain the same mediocre team they were when the 2 teams faced. You have no upside. You have no hope for the future. You will never be good. You could join ANY conference and you would still be a bottom feeder. Why? Because you have no talent. You have no potential to recruit decent players or good enough coaching staffs to stay for the long-haul. You never send anyone to the NFL. Iowa does...consistently.
I know this is going to p*ss you guys off, but the fact remains...it's all true. And you cannot dispute it.
Iowa traditionally improves throughout the season more than ISU because they have more talent. Not because the schedule is weaker. I mean, I know that Big-12 North was always sooooo difficult. Wow, K-State, Kansas, Colorado, Mizzou......ooooooeeeeeeyyyy!! MEATGRINDER!!!
Look at the NFL and compare Iowa and ISU's talent. Where are your draft picks? Where are your impact NFL players? Iowa's got tons of them. And if you don't think having NFL talent matters in college, you're a moron. Go look at the teams that contend for national titles and tell me how many of them don't have rosters full of NFL caliber players. You never have any, and that's why you never win. Your quarterback is terrible and fluked his way to success in 1 game. And what a shock....it just so happened to be against Iowa. Kind of like Brett Culbertson making probably the only 5 kicks he made in his career.....against Iowa. Amazing how that happens, hu?
Enjoy your annual 4-8 records and continued jealousy of Iowa. I'll just continue to enjoy not being Iowa State. Keep up that inferiority complex/loser mentality. That's why you are and always will be Iowa State. Sucks to be you.
Quit crying. Quit your jealousy. I'm sorry you can't ever win and won't ever win.
And I'm going to let you in on a secret...
You won't ever win and haven't ever won because you don't have talent. Not because your schedule is so tough. Your schedule is so tough because you don't have to play yourself every year. Crappy teams have tough schedules because they replace a game with a crappy team with a game against a good team, since they can't play themselves. For example, Oklahoma would likely play a weaker schedule than Iowa State because in one of the games on their schedule, Oklahoma plays Iowa State, while Iowa State plays Oklahoma.
Here's the thing...
Iowa is better than Iowa State darn near every year because, well.... Iowa has better players. Sorry, it's true. And your jealousy of Iowa is pathetic. This constant nonsense about the Big-10 is a joke. You guys have an inferiority complex, and threads like this only prove my point.
Is the Big-10 weak this year? Is water wet? I don't think anyone in their right mind could argue otherwise. Is Iowa going to take advantage of that? I hope so. We will know as the season progresses.
Would ISU fare better over the past decade in the Big-10 than Big-12? No. Sorry, but you wouldn't have. A bad team is a bad team. Conference strength doesn't change that. The Big-12 North has been horrible for a decade and ISU still couldn't manage to find their way into the conference championship game once. You had 4-5 easy conference games every year, 3 weak OOC opponents, and the best you could do was 7 wins in any of those years. So what makes you think joining the Big-10 would have changed anything? If your argument is "well, the Big-10 has tons of bad teams", here's my rebuttal.... the Big-12 also has bad teams AND ISU has consistently lost to MANY of those (i.e. Baylor, Okie State and Mizzou before they got good, Kansas, etc.). You are only a toss-up against most bad teams. So how does joining an alleged weaker conference make your record any better?
As for this year...
The Big-12 isn't any good either. You have 2 great teams in the conference (OU, Okie State) and the rest is nothing special, mostly mediocre. Wow, congrats on having so many ranked teams. Too bad most of them are actually lousy. Texas is horrible. And that's an understatement. Iowa would beat Texas by 17........in Austin. K-State is terrible. Baylor is a 1-man team. A&M is pretty good, but they are basically this year's version of 2010 Iowa - a bunch of chokers. Who else is ANY good? Mizzou? I laughed. Taco Tech? lol? Kansas? haha! Iowa State? Never have been.
You have 2 games against great teams in a 12 game schedule and you're whining about the schedule? This is why you are, and always will be Iowa State.
Now, ISU did beat Iowa on the field. And they were most certainly better on that day. Is ISU the better team? No. But they're close enough in talent to beat Iowa at home in a rivalry game the 2nd week of the season. You won a game by 3 points in 3 OT's at home the 2nd week of the year. Iowa will end up winning more games than Iowa State.... many more games. Not because of the schedule. Because they have a lot more upside than Iowa State due to a boatload more talent. And because of that upside, Iowa will improve as the season progresses, while ISU will remain the same mediocre team they were when the 2 teams faced. You have no upside. You have no hope for the future. You will never be good. You could join ANY conference and you would still be a bottom feeder. Why? Because you have no talent. You have no potential to recruit decent players or good enough coaching staffs to stay for the long-haul. You never send anyone to the NFL. Iowa does...consistently.
I know this is going to p*ss you guys off, but the fact remains...it's all true. And you cannot dispute it.
Iowa traditionally improves throughout the season more than ISU because they have more talent. Not because the schedule is weaker. I mean, I know that Big-12 North was always sooooo difficult. Wow, K-State, Kansas, Colorado, Mizzou......ooooooeeeeeeyyyy!! MEATGRINDER!!!
Look at the NFL and compare Iowa and ISU's talent. Where are your draft picks? Where are your impact NFL players? Iowa's got tons of them. And if you don't think having NFL talent matters in college, you're a moron. Go look at the teams that contend for national titles and tell me how many of them don't have rosters full of NFL caliber players. You never have any, and that's why you never win. Your quarterback is terrible and fluked his way to success in 1 game. And what a shock....it just so happened to be against Iowa. Kind of like Brett Culbertson making probably the only 5 kicks he made in his career.....against Iowa. Amazing how that happens, hu?
Enjoy your annual 4-8 records and continued jealousy of Iowa. I'll just continue to enjoy not being Iowa State. Keep up that inferiority complex/loser mentality. That's why you are and always will be Iowa State. Sucks to be you.
Any time an ISU fan is remotely unsatisfied with anything, Hawk fan accuses them of "crying".
It makes them feel better about themselves, I guess.
No one is saying they want the Big 12 to dissolve, we're saying the Big 10 is terrible, and we'd love to play in that league, because despite as much as they suck on the field, it's stable as hell and commands a lot of cash.
The North had a wining record against the B1G, I'm pretty sure.
It makes them feel better about themselves, I guess.
No one is saying they want the Big 12 to dissolve, we're saying the Big 10 is terrible, and we'd love to play in that league, because despite as much as they suck on the field, it's stable as hell and commands a lot of cash.
The North had a wining record against the B1G, I'm pretty sure.
Elaborate. What's your evidence for this? Will you point to Iowa having a better record at the end of the season and say "there, that proves it"? Because it won't. ISU plays a MUCH tougher schedule than Iowa. This can't be argued rationally. Iowa will finish with a better record, but ISU is a better team and has proved as much by, wait for it, BEATING IOWA despite a litany of self inflicted mistakes.
If Iowa and ISU swapped schedules this year, Iowa might be 6-6 where ISU would probably win 8 or 9 games.
hawkeye11en1, is that you?
Are you serious right now? I think you need a reality check... in a lot of areas.
Yeah, we're clearly the ones with the complex.
$10 says the guy who posted this is currently wearing an Iowa F*cking City shirt and will get thrown out of the Sports Column for puking on himself in about 6 hours.
Haha I truly enjoy dbag post our little brother dbag hawk fans.
The Big 12 is better than the little 10 in about every sport every year, including football. All that little 10 money and media exposure doesn't change that.
ISU would have at least four 8+ win seasons in the past 10 years if they played it in iowa's conference. It's just easier to win there.
Whew I'm glad I'm not a hawk fan. I would hate to be gay.
The Big 12 is better than the little 10 in about every sport every year, including football. All that little 10 money and media exposure doesn't change that.
ISU would have at least four 8+ win seasons in the past 10 years if they played it in iowa's conference. It's just easier to win there.
Whew I'm glad I'm not a hawk fan. I would hate to be gay.
Can you read?
I explain HOW Iowa is better and stated the schedule has NOTHING to do with it.
I said they will end up the better team because they have more UPSIDE due to superior talent. ISU has ZERO potential to improve throughout the year. You do the math... ISU wins AT HOME in triple OT the 2nd week of the year against a team with actual upside. Who the heck do you think is going to end up being the better team at the end of the season? Doesn't take a DMACC education to figure that one out, does it?
hawkeye11en1, is that you?
Are you serious right now? I think you need a reality check... in a lot of areas.
Yeah, you better have the Jimlad!
LOL. $50.
Cuz you have so many NFL players and stuff, right? You'd win 60 straight national titles if only you could play in the Little 10, right? There isn't a team in the Big-10 with less NFL talent over the past decade than ISU, moron.
Sorry the Des Moines Register didn't hire you so now you have to post on message boards to help your insecurity.
Of course, anything else would be sinister. As much as we may disagree, I don't think you're anything like this wannamakelovetoyomamma69 guy... he's clearly a tool.
Iowa State would be 4-8 or 6-6 at best with ANY schedule they played. Sorry, it's true. You're a bad team and bad teams lose to other bad teams regularly. Anyway, go Hawks! Thanks for allowing me to troll you idiots.
You Clone fans are a hoot. Love how you support your team through thick and thin. I respect that. You just don't know anything about football. But that's okay. You're good people.
Puck Fenn State!
You Clone fans are a hoot. Love how you support your team through thick and thin. I respect that. You just don't know anything about football. But that's okay. You're good people.
Puck Fenn State!
Idiot, *******, etc.
The schedule is what it is and the players and coaches embrace it.
We would win 9 games with Iowas schedule and Iowa would maybe win 5 with Iowa States. This is what happens when you play in a superior conference. Wisconsin is the only team with a pulse in the b1g and would maybe finish 3rd in the Big 12, maybe.
