What Iowa State players have a chance of being drafted in the next few years?

[Jer]

Kohl has the raw talent to develop into a player that could be considered on the list. The biggest hindrance is going to be that he's stuck as a backup for another 2-3 seasons, giving him less time to prove himself in big games. The other option, and is viable given the other QBs lined up, is he transfers and gets playing time earlier on. I'd hate to lose him and know that he and his family want to stick it out here, but Becht is going to be hard to jump over, while Becht also probably not being a guy that doesn't stick around his full eligibility.

 

[cycfan1]

Jaylin Noel is fairly highly rated on a few mocks I follow.

 

[Aclone]

…while Becht also probably not being a guy that doesn't stick around his full eligibility.

So, Rocco goes pro after this season, JJ starts next year. Problem solved.

 

[FeedBreece]

I think you’re all underselling Cooper’s next level potential.

Not sure why he hasn’t been discussed more. He looks like an NFL defensive back.

 

[Frak]

He seems like a great college player that won't have the combine numbers to get drafted. Could see him signing as an udfa and sticking in the right spot somewhere

I feel like combine numbers will be a strength for him. His size/speed combo is freakish. Where he’ll get hurt is his coverage film and then injury history. But I kind of feel like some team is going to put 10 lbs on him and turn him into a LB.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Don’t see Freyler getting drafted at this point. He won’t pass the physicals due to the shoulder injuries. He’ll definitely be an UDFA though

Since early this past season it became clear to me that Freylers career trajectory is very similar to Greg Eisworth. Flash early in their ISU career, one of if not the best tackler on the team, but severely limited in coverage ability for what you want at safety, especially at the NFL level. Also the injuries that they pile up over the course of time. They get/ had so much wear and tear during their ISU career, that it's almost an indictment for anyone with pro aspirations to come to ISU to play that position.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

I think Higgins is absolutely a likely draftee.

Noel will get drafted too in my opinion. He's got NFL speed and plays special teams.

 

[Cyclad]

Freyler gets torched sometimes, but makes up for it in the run game. Not something that translates to the NFL well.

Linebacker

 

[Primetime26]

someone go find that harklau podcast from last year where he said like 15-20 nfl players were on the roster. some of the strongest kool-aid i've ever seen on this board to this day lol

 

[Jer]

So, Rocco goes pro after this season, JJ starts next year. Problem solved.

While that would be cool, I don't see Rocco having such a year that he goes from no draft projection to high enough to leave - even with what will likely be a sub-great QB class. He would have to have an absolute monster of a year - and until I see an OL and WR group that can support that, I won't even entertain the thought.

 

[wheels686]

Fans need to realize there are certain thresholds that NFL teams are looking at when drafting a player, especially higher in the round 1-3. Teams also look at whether you were a team captain, as appointed by coaches or teammates.

TJ Tampa fell to the 4th rd because his RAS score was a 6.31. To be a 1st rd pick, this should be over a 9

For OL, You look for traits like height, size first of all. Then look to arm length (especially for T position in the NFL) and hand size. When KO got drafted in the 2nd rd, he had the longest arms for an OL that year. They look at the first 10 yard time in the 40 yard dash and the 3 cone. They don't typically care about 40 time.

for CB's, most important trait they look for is speed, your 40 time and 3 cone time. They look for height and arm length after that. Hand size isn't as important for this spot.

For WR's, they look at wheather you meet minimum threashold, usually at 5'11 and up. Your 6'6-6'6 receivers aren't highly coveted anymore. They value route running the most. They want receivers who can run 4.3- 4.48. Hand size is important, 3 cone speed as well.

For players like Dominic Orange. His value will be determined by his RAS score, age when he comes out to the draft, and how he measures at the combine. Past production isn't as valued as how they project you will be and not what you have been.

I study quite a bit with the draft stuff. It's pretty interesting.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Fans need to realize there are certain thresholds that NFL teams are looking at when drafting a player, especially higher in the round 1-3. Teams also look at whether you were a team captain, as appointed by coaches or teammates.

TJ Tampa fell to the 4th rd because his RAS score was a 6.31. To be a 1st rd pick, this should be over a 9

For OL, You look for traits like height, size first of all. Then look to arm length (especially for T position in the NFL) and hand size. When KO got drafted in the 2nd rd, he had the longest arms for an OL that year. They look at the first 10 yard time in the 40 yard dash and the 3 cone. They don't typically care about 40 time.

for CB's, most important trait they look for is speed, your 40 time and 3 cone time. They look for height and arm length after that. Hand size isn't as important for this spot.

For WR's, they look at wheather you meet minimum threashold, usually at 5'11 and up. Your 6'6-6'6 receivers aren't highly coveted anymore. They value route running the most. They want receivers who can run 4.3- 4.48. Hand size is important, 3 cone speed as well.

For players like Dominic Orange. His value will be determined by his RAS score, age when he comes out to the draft, and how he measures at the combine. Past production isn't as valued as how they project you will be and not what you have been.

I study quite a bit with the draft stuff. It's pretty interesting.

What is a RAS score?

 

[wheels686]

What is a RAS score?

RAS stands for relative athletic score. It’s on a scale from 1-10. This is used by every NFL team. It’s an athletic score based. Your height, weight, hand size, 40 yard dash, 20 yard split etc based on the combine and pro day in relation to players from the same class and historical data.

 

[wheels686]

Here is TJ Tampa's

 

[wheels686]

Here is the Packers 1st rd pick, the OT Jordan Morgan from Arizona. Look at all the green colored scores which is elite. Just for comparison purposes.

 

[wheels686]

So when you look at what players will get drafted high. Start with, what players will likely have a high RAS score, then look at premium positions (QB, OT, Edge, CB) as those positions will get drafted higher early

 

[EarthIsMan]

Here is TJ Tampa's
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The problem with this RAS score is using data from a single time point during which a player is injured (such as Tampa’s 40 yd time with what was reported as a hamstring issue).

Time will tell, but it seems like pre-draft measurables are overvalued when there so much other “data” to draw from.

 

[wheels686]

The problem with this RAS score is using data from a single time point during which a player is injured (such as Tampa’s 40 yd time with what was reported as a hamstring issue).

Time will tell, but it seems like pre-draft measurables are overvalued when there so much other “data” to draw from.

RAS uses the combine and pro day. Most GM’s will tell you they use this to confirm what they are seeing on tape.

But if you look at top 2 rd prospects, they generally have high RAS scores minus the QB position.

RAS isn’t the end all be all, but it is quite commonly used and a good indicator of draftability.

 

[Cyforce]

Maybe Black. Too early to tell. Neal has a shot with his size and hips.

It's really an unfair question. We're definitely a developmental school and now that we have an O Line coach that has established himself as someone that puts players into the draft the probability becomes far more likely.

 

[Cyclonsin]

I hope I'm wrong, but I fully expect our 4-year draft streak to come to an end in 2025. I'm just not as high on Noel as a lot of others are. Again, I hope I'm wrong.