What will your reaction be to the possible outcomes of the UNI game?
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I know there is a contingent that wants Rhoads gone and I there's also a contingent that will defend him no matter what. But I think most of us are in the middle, unhappy with the last two seasons (and may or may not have wanted to see Rhoads fired after last season but accepting that he wasn't so we have what we have) but waiting to either melt down or start the hype train until after the UNI game on Saturday. This is how I'll feel based on various outcomes:
Loss, regardless of score: Fire Rhoads prior to the postgame press conference, announce interim head coach for the rest of the season.
1-6 point win: Rhoads is a dead man walking and the season is gonna be 1-11 or 2-10 bad.
7-13 point win: Maybe things aren't so bad after all. We aren't that great of a football team but we can probably eke out 4 wins and deal with an offseason coaching search. Another week of "wait and see"
14+ point win:
What's everybody else thinking?
Have to judge him on the growth during the season. Crap the bed against UNI and beat the others in non-con and at LEAST beat KU and someone else... Nothing gets him canned in a vacuum but I need to see growth or lack thereof to start using words like "fired".
Whats silly nonsense is that were even having to worry bout losing to UNI every year
It's a question that didn't need to be asked. Instead of predetermining how you're going to react, how about just enjoying the fact that it's game week and react how you react when you see what happens on the field on Saturday?
The only reason to predict a reaction (which really means it's not a reaction, it's a predetermined feeling based on outcome) is to see how many people will go over the edge if we lose.
Predetermined? Not really. This is nothing more than a prediction thread. No one's reactions, win or lose, will be governed by what they posted here.
Don't take this stuff so seriously. Relax and have some fun, the losses and incompetent play have not even started yet.
LOL! Super Bowl! Right. The NDSU and Illinois State games are much more important to us than Iowa State. Iowa State is a lot of fun, and we hugely appreciate the chance to play this game. Not a Super Bowl.
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I see you're struggling with this "message board" concept. We've had terrible football teams the past two years and the UNI game will show us whether this year will be more of that or whether there really has been an improvement. And discussion in the football forum tends to go off the rails with people who think Rhoads is a failed experiment and has to go arguing with people who think Rhoads can do no wrong. I started this thread to get some discussion going about outcomes instead of expectations to limit the chances it would get derailed, this wasn't about predictions of how the game will go and given that most responses have kept that in mind I don't think there was a problem with the question not being clear. The question wasn't "do you think we'll win or lose" it was "how would you react to various outcomes". Personally I think that by around 10PM or so on Saturday night we'll have a much better handle on where we're at as a football team, and it is most definitely possible to predict how I'll be feeling based on the games outcome. We don't yet know what kind of football team we have, but based on what happens on Saturday night we'll find out.
This Guy......Doesn't get it.
I think the UNI players just get so jacked up to play in an actual stadium. Plus this is really the only game that hawk fans get to attend in person often times in their entire lives, so they get really pumped too.
Rhoads has made mistakes. No doubt. But do you give him a chance to rectify those mistakes and put us back on track or not. IMO, the first 4 years showed enough flashes that you give him another shot. Making a coaching change would actually set us back farther than giving him another shot.
IMO, there is a camp that is still butt hurt over DMac's forced resignation. They watched the Chizik debacle. And they have selective memory as to the whole process and candidate list we had when CPR was hired in 2009.
Probably some animosity also in seeing the facility upgrades that have taken place the last few years under Pollard's leadership. Probably because DMac did not have them.
Bottom line is that this is a critical year. CPR needs to have some success. No argument. It is up to Pollard to decide how much. CPR wins 6 games and makes a bowl then Pollard does not have to make a tough choice. Even 5 wins. Less wins makes Pollard's job tougher. More wins easier.
Pretty easy to predict how the fanbase would feel regarding outcomes. Any win will be met with relief at getting that first win. A Big win will make fans more confident. Narrow win less confident. Any type of loss will deflate the fanbase. The season could still be salvaged but it would be even more difficult.
IMO, it takes a special kind of coach to succeed at Iowa State. IMO, CPR is that type of coach. But he still must win. DMac was that type of coach as well IMO. If Jason Berryman stays out of the bar and doesn't get busted or Bret Culbertson makes a couple of field goals then things might have been different. But so be it.
I am optimistic about this coming season. And looking at the roster, even more optimistic for 2016. We do have some good young talent. Let the season begin and see how it comes out.
You're kinda making my point for me.
But, hypothetically speaking, let's say CycloneFan12345 thinks if we lose, Rhoads should be gone immediately and makes that claim. But then Saturday comes around and we lose, but we lose 3-0 and we have 19 touchdowns reversed by obviously terrible calls. The game is executed perfectly with a dominating performance by Iowa State on both ends of the field. Even Howard Cosell tweets from his grave that ISU should've won this game 133-3 but the refs were busy building a birdhouse on the deck of the Jacobson Building - and he attaches video of them doing it. As they're leaving the field, the referees announce over the PA system that Tommy in DM has passed away and in his will he left 17.8 billion dollars to the officiating crew to make sure Iowa State did not win on September 5, 2015 (he wasn't quite smart enough to put the right date, he meant September 12, 2015, his lawyer tried to correct it, but it was Tommy in DM). The NCAA releases a statement moments later that states they know the final score should have been 133-3, they know the crew was paid off, but it was written in a legal document so they had to allow it to happen - the NCAA doesn't want to break the law.
But CycloneFan12345 already stated that "if we lose, Rhoads should be gone immediately." So does he get to change his mind based on the actual game?
Now, this is obviously an exaggeration. It probably won't happen like that. There's only like a 13-14% chance of this playing out. But really, why make predictions about how you're going to feel 5 days from now? By doing that you're predetermining how you're going to feel. We could dominate the game, have some bad calls go against us and only win by 7, but you already decided last week that 7 points wasn't enough. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. I mean, in a way you're kinda setting yourself up for disappointment by being a Cyclone fan, but why make it worse?
For the record, I think the above situation actually happens, and Leath fires Rhoads at midfield. Jischke, Geoffroy, Gene Smith and VanDeVelde duct tape Rhoads up in a packing blanket, beat him unconscious with the same baseball bat that was used in the final ISU baseball game, and throw him in the Squaw Creek. Pollard hires Jon Gruden as interim coach who takes us on a winning streak and we win out the remainder of the schedule.
In a surprise announcement after we dismantle Texas on Homecoming, Ruth Bader Ginsburg appears on top of the new SEZ scoreboard and announces that the NCAA ruling had been overturned by the US Supreme Court (Scalia was the lone vote against, because we all know he's a closet hawk fan). Ginsburg calls the NCAA a joke, and grants us a victory sans asterisk for each apology letter we've received.
In a bizarre twist, with the UNI game now a victory, CycloneFan12345 jumps off the top of the press box in a fit of guilt, as Rhoads was fired because of the loss which was now a victory.
Hey, this is kinda fun. Great ******* thread!
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Here are the scores of our last two games with Drake:
1984 ISU 21 - Drake 17
1985 Drake 20 - ISU 17
By 1986 Drake's program was failing so badly that they decided to no longer offer football scholarships. So just to clarify, ISU lost to a team that about a year later wasn't even fielding a Div 1 team.
Yeah, ISU is going to have to worry about losing every game no matter who it is.
Well, one of my possible outcomes was "All aboard the hype train", so... yes. Or did you just look at the "loss" outcome and stop reading?
Why don't you go post the same scenario for Nebraska on the Nebraska Board, they would appreciate your mentality and you would fit right in.
Well I see you're struggling with the definition of the word reaction. The one you used in the title to your thread.
If you are deciding how you will feel after the game, it's no longer a reaction. It's a predetermined decision. A reaction can not come before the event. That is known as anticipation.
