Where Will ISU End Up if the Big 12 Implodes?

Where Will ISU End Up If the Big 12 Implodes?


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CentexCyclone

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Our current governor and legislature would close ISU if they had the chance.

What led you to this conclusion? Given the Gov is an ISU alum and former Cyclone player Jack Whitver is President of the IA Senate, why would they not advocate for ISU?
 
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CentexCyclone

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The B1G would be a group independent from the NCAA that can print and keep their own money.

Thinking the SEC is going to poach the likes of Ohio St., Michigan, and Penn St. from the B1G is delusional.

Agree. Seems like a stretch to think the cream of the B1G would get along well in the crowded house of the SEC.
 

Clark

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It amuses me that some of you think that the Iowa government is going to have any say in any of this.

Neither universities have any leverage in any of this, therefore the state government can't do **** about what is or isn't going to happen.
 

CentexCyclone

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As some others have mentioned this is the first step to 64 team breakout from the NCAA to fit more of the NFL type model that will end up making tons of money. The current power 5 teams have far distanced themselves from any group of 5 teams out there and it is not even close. So there are 65 teams to choose from.

SEC has first choice to get to 16 so they want the top dogs OU & Texas easy choices. Also no team would leave this conference.

B1G then would have their choices of a few schools with ND locked into ACC and ACC teams locked in with their grant of rights it limits for them. Most liking choices of KU, ISU, WV, KSU and maybe OSU. The B1G has some pride and will most liking go with ISU and KU being the AAU schools and KU basketball and ISU growth projection. Also B1G won't want to expand to far out of their region.

ACC is at 15 with ND so they only need one easy choice on location is WV and it gets them back with a lot of old rivals.

PAC12 has last choice of who is left. KSU, TT, OSU are easy. So it falls to BU and TCU as last choice. TCU was the last school to the power 5 party and BU has a little pull with the basketball national title last year. Both fan bases are small and don't care that much and lets face it BU is a trash university.

With the 4 leagues of 16 you can easily go to a 16 team playoff and everyone is making tons of money which is what they want in the first place.

This post is a good summary of the lay of the land for ISU and other Big 12 orphans. If the B1G is interested in expanding to keep up with the $EC, then the B1G and ISU merger makes a lot of sense for both parties due to culture, geographic ties (Nebby, Minn, Illinois and Wisc will certainly enjoy the gate when ISU visits), academic fit. Given the evolution of the program since CMC arrived, the Cyclones kinda' are a B1G program already.

I guess I'd take a Pac 12 deal, but really do not want to see that come to pass for ISU. Those are looooong road trips and the Pac 12 has the worst per school TV revenue of the Power 5. No one cares about Pac 12 football. I think KSU, Okie State and Tech end up there. Not a great spot for those programs, but better than the Mountain West.

TCU and Baylor are really in a pickle. The Pac 12 has some kind of restriction against religiously-affiliated schools joining the conference. Perhaps this was a hedge against BYU from joining back in the day. Seems prejudiced to me, but it's their conference. So, if not the Pac 12, where do TCU and Baylor end up?

"16 team playoff and everyone is making tons of money" .... you hint at a heretofore unplayed wild card: How are the streaming platforms (Google, Amazon, Apple) going to react to and influence CFB realignment? But that's fodder for another post ;-)
 
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CNECloneFan

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IIRC, the Big Ten wasn’t happy over it, right? But the papers were signed, so it blew over.

Somehow CF has construed that into “B1G doesn’t care about AAU.”
Of course B1G cares about AAU. But if it ever comes down to a choice between adding a good AAU program vs. adding a non-AAU school that will really bring in the cable/streaming dollars, guess who is in?
 

SEIOWA CLONE

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Clearly you are not aware of the fact that Notre Dame has a contract until like 2035 where if they join a conference it has to be the ACC.

Also, what on Earth does ISU have to offer the Big Ten? A rivalry with Iowa? Traditional foes against Nebraska? Geographic fit? Iowa State is in a state that only has like 3 million people, no historical prestige in either football or basketball, is viewed nationally as little brother to Iowa who is already in the Big Ten and offers no additional markets. We'd be competitive but I'd guess the Big Ten would go after a school with a little more history and name recognition in a large market. For example, Boston College. They have a Heisman winner, they are in a major city that's not in their market currently, they have good academics. They'd have a better pitch than we would.
Boston College is in the ACC, they gave up all their media rights until 2037 or so when the ACC network was formed.

I hear a lot of EIU fans saying the same thing, ISU brings nothing to the Big 10. We are an AAU school, that is something, we have an up and coming football team and a decent winning history in both men's and woman's basketball. We sit right in the conference footprint, and have a history with both EIU and Nebraska.
Are we the first choice, or the 2nd or 3rd, no we are not, but we are available, or soon will be, and those schools that have tradition and lots of viewers are not leaving their current conference or unwilling to do so.
 
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Cyched

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Big Ten adds ND to the east and Iowa State to the west. KU, KSU, OSU, TT head to PAC 12. TCU and Baylor screwed. WVU maybe picked up by ACC or something.

I made a joke about this earlier, but ND money would help the B1G stomach adding ISU.

Though I think they would pursue Kansas first and ISU would pair with the other PAC bound teams
 

Rods79

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I think we’re moving into quality over quantity territory now. There might be a straight up BIG 10 mutiny if they added just an all around terrible football team like KU who is 18-99 over the last decade. I’m not sure their AAU status makes them a lock for anything in this new shift.
 

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I voted AAC just because with things going so well, it's now time for the nut cup.

The poll is strong toward a 'new B12' or B1G. Does anyone have rationale beyond just hoping?
 

Halincandenza

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What led you to this conclusion? Given the Gov is an ISU alum and former Cyclone player Jack Whitver is President of the IA Senate, why would they not advocate for ISU?
Reynolds basically got a degree for political purposes. I don't see her as having some strong ties to Iowa State