Which recruit do you want most?

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I thought is would be interesting to speculate a little and see what recruit wrestling fans want the most!

A. Tyler Caldwell - 165 (Oklahoma NCAA runnerup, currently at OTC on Olympic Redshirt)

B. Ross Larson - 197 (Senior at Ankeny high school and undefeated pinning machine)

C. David Thorn - 133 (Redshirt Soph at Minnesota, currently injured and lost spot to Chris Dardanes)

D. Somebody else and who that would be.

I'm not saying we are after any or all 3, just a little fun.

 

[BCClone]

Just in the transfer dept or are hs included also?

 

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Both - Ross Larson is a senior at Ankeny.

Anybody that isn't already signed.

 

[BCClone]

Both - Ross Larson is a senior at Ankeny.

Anybody that isn't already signed.

Spaced on that. I would go with thorn, biggest gap.

 

[Sobchakcyclone]

How much time does Caldwell have? We'll have our best, and most experienced team in possibly 2 years.

Larson has the most upside, with lots of time to grow. If he's really 6'4" he could be a heavy. We could use a stopper at heavy.

 

[Judoka]

No Brainer: Caldwell.

We already have Meeks coming in at 133 and while Larson might end up being good in college, we have no idea how he'll perform when he can't just outmuscle every opponent he faces.

 

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Caldwell will be a true Junior, I think. (Has not used his redshirt)

 

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My pros and cons for each

A. Tyler Caldwell
Pros - NCAA runnerup at 165 where Sorenson is graduating, fits right into lineup
Cons - None

B. Ross Larson
Pros - Provides much needed depth at 197. Shafer is not a true 197 pounder, can he become one, I hope so. Also Kyven is going to be unreliable at 197, from an injury perspective.
Cons - Like Jesse Doyle, will be unproven at 197.

C. David Thorn
Pros - fills the hole at 133 with a AA candidate and allows John Meeks to redshirt next year.
Also residual factor is it might give us more pull to get Tommy Thorn at Iowa State
Con - Would do we do his senior year - with Meeks, Thorn, Goettl, McCauley at 3 weights (133 to 149)
And needs to get a release from Minnesota

 

[cyclone1306]

Unless Thorn is granted a release I see no reason to even go after him. Meeks will be at that spot in two years minimum and it would be wasted money IMHO.

Caldwell would be great. But with a healthy Spangler we have a log jam next year from 165-184. Unless Spangler cant get down to 165. Then I go with Caldwell.

I dont see how we can go wrong with Larson. We are in desperate need of a 197lber with Gadson's health always going to be a ? mark.

Unless we can get a top notch HWT then I would go there because until the young man from Michigan is on campus and proves he can keep his grades up we are in big trouble there in the years to come.

 

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I assume that Spangler will stay at 174, esp. if we get Caldwell

I also agree that if Thorn doesn't get a release from Minnesota it is a waste. I'm using the assumption that Thorn gets his release and can wrestling next year.

 

[Cyfan1843]

Cadwell he has been to the finals in the NCAA's 2nd Thorn 133 is a huge hole, 3rd Jake Marlin to verbal to ISU. Ross will be nice but he may be a tweener to big for 197 and to small for hwt. Unless we feed him a lot of milk shakes for a few years.

 

[Sobchakcyclone]

I'll preface by saying this is a lot of hyperbole. We hire coaches for a reason. Have to trust them. It would be great to find a way to get both 1 & 2.

Caldwell would be great in the room, and a good leader, I think. You can't bank on a guy being back to the finals in wrestling. Only a few guys do it. Do we need him next year, though? We have Spangler (injury issue), and Weatherman won't be kept out of the line-up. I think Moreno would be more comfortable at 165. I think our year to make a legit threat for a title is two years out.

Larson seems to have great feet, foot speed, and balance. Things you can't coach. Maybe he needs technique, though. He may already be past being 197. You would have to see how much he likes lifting, and if he has freakish strength. He could be a good heavy, but service 197 early. Schafer doesn't have his athletic ability.

Doyle, I thought we had. Hope he's as advertised. I think Thorn is a real long shot.

 

[CyCrazy]

Im not a diehard wrestling fan but an occasional watcher. But where is the Clark kid from SEP and Meeks going to school??

Edit: I see Meeks is coming to ISU.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

Im not a diehard wrestling fan but an occasional watcher. But where is the Clark kid from SEP and Meeks going to school??

Edit: I see Meeks is coming to ISU.

Clark is going to Iowa.

 

[cyclone1306]

Clark is going to Iowa.

I would hate to not see Weatherman in the lineup at 174 next year. Its been a long time since I have been this impressed during ones redshirt year. Just appears to have all the tools to be big time. Im hoping Spangler stays healthy but Im far from optimistic about that at this point. I was hoping and still am that Spangler will go to 165 if Caldwell doesnt show up in Ames.

 

[brett108]

I would hate to not see Weatherman in the lineup at 174 next year. Its been a long time since I have been this impressed during ones redshirt year. Just appears to have all the tools to be big time. Im hoping Spangler stays healthy but Im far from optimistic about that at this point. I was hoping and still am that Spangler will go to 165 if Caldwell doesnt show up in Ames.

Weatherman is going to have to pass England. The 174 weight class looks great going into the next few years. I really think we need another 185 guy though in the future. I don't know if Doyle is that kid or if he is a 197.

 

[BCClone]

Weatherman is going to have to pass England. The 174 weight class looks great going into the next few years. I really think we need another 185 guy though in the future. I don't know if Doyle is that kid or if he is a 197.

Can weatherman pull off 84? Seems like Mikey would be a smaller 84, but I havent seen weatherman since hs. I was thinking caldwell only had one year, that would be big.

 

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Tyler Caldwell will have 2 years left. He hasn't used his redshirt, I don't know if that would ever come into play or not.
I don't see where we put everybody next year if Tyler Caldwell comes on board.

165 - Caldwell, Molina (Can England make the cut if Tyler does not come to Iowa State?)
174 - Spangler (I think with health issues, he has to stay at 174, England or Weatherman to back him up)
184 - Beard (I assume he stays at 184 unless he bulks up to 197, then Weatherman might be 184)

Ideally, I want Spangler and Beard to stay at 174 and 184 and let England cut to 165 if he can. We had enough injuries at 174 and 184 that Tanner can back them up and be in lineup fulltime as a redshirt soph. (Good problem to have)

 

[CYKOFAN]

I'll go with Ross Larson. He not only pinned 38 of his 41 opponents in the first period, but he never gave up a takedown all year. Unbelievable.

 

[CyPull]

Weatherman is going to have to pass England.

I'll admit that I don't spend any time in the room, but I understand Weatherman passed that threshold a long time ago. That said, Tanner could go '84. He's got the frame for it.