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Ficklone02

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We actually need him to play this year. It'll help this team THIS year alot. Royce is going to stay for 2011 no matter what. He knows how good that team has the potential to be. It'd be nice for him to get a year of playing time under his belt.
I agree, if he plays we have a chance at being a decent team.
 

CyJack13

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Yes, that is a well established fact. They prefer to rule against what is in the best interest of student athletes. Thats their consistent M.O.

The NCAA does make some questionable rulings that seem to deny good kids with legit reasons. But I won't be feeling sorry for Royce if he doesn't get to play this year, he brought all this on himself. But I do hope he plays as he will make us much, much better this season.
 

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I actually think it's good news that it's taking this long. That means it's maybe not a simple, open-and-shut case, and the NCAA is investigating a few things that could make him eligible this year.

Kansas and Kentucky are waiting on similar rulings on even more important players than Royce. So if this board is correct that the NCAA loves the power schools and can't even find little ol' ISU on a map, we shouldn't expect a decision until after Selby and Kanter are ruled upon.
 

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Anybody else picturing White's file on the desk of a cubicle at the NCAA's, next to a computer screen with about 8 windows open on it ... Facebook, Solitaire, Weird things to do with plants.com, Tetris, Eastbay.com, ACC Basketball Preview, Craigslist ....and cylconefanatic. Probably a Swingline stapler, red, and calculator sitting next to it with the word boob on it.......:skeptical:
 
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It does make you curious as to the order the NCAA looks at files. Do they go by date each claim is submitted? Do they go by order of program historical significance? (i.e. does Kentucky get rulings first?) Do they go in alphabetical order of player?

I think it is determined by the amount of cash found in the coresponding evelope.
 

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Kansas and Kentucky are waiting on similar rulings on even more important players than Royce. So if this board is correct that the NCAA loves the power schools and can't even find little ol' ISU on a map, we shouldn't expect a decision until after Selby and Kanter are ruled upon.

More important to who? Or is this just part of your "dig" in the next sentence? I'm thinking Royce is more important to ISU than either of those other guys are to Kansas and Kentucky. Don't Kansas and Kentucky have a whole lineup of other 5 star players to fall back on? I (probably naively) hope that the NCAA looks at student athletes the same regardless of their abilities.
 

kucyclone

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More important to who? Or is this just part of your "dig" in the next sentence? I'm thinking Royce is more important to ISU than either of those other guys are to Kansas and Kentucky. Don't Kansas and Kentucky have a whole lineup of other 5 star players to fall back on? I (probably naively) hope that the NCAA looks at student athletes the same regardless of their abilities.

I agree with your last sentence, so this is moot, but Selby and Kanter are both top 5 freshmen on top 10 teams. White is a top 30 guy on a top 100 team. Even if White is cleared, ISU still isn't a tournament team, so I don't think he's anywhere close to as important as Kanter or Selby to college basketball or the NCAA.
 

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Name the applicable movie quote:

"Yall know what a Japanese inspection is? Its when the Japanese get a load of lettuce in the country the’re not sure they want to let in they just let it sit on the docks till they’re good and ready to inspect it. Of course by then its all gone rotten,there’s nothing left to inspect…You see lettuce is a perishable item…like you two monkeys."
 

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I think the NCAA is working overtime to figure out a way to get the Kentucky Freshman from overseas eligible. With his old coach saying they paid him, that should rule him out, but since it is Kentucky they have to find some reason to say that they don't believe the old coach but they have faith that Rick Pitino would not lie or break any rules.


Pretty sure Rick Pitino is the head coach at Louisville. Same state, different city.

Royce will not be eligible to play this year, take it to the bank.
 

Cyhart

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I agree with your last sentence, so this is moot, but Selby and Kanter are both top 5 freshmen on top 10 teams. White is a top 30 guy on a top 100 team. Even if White is cleared, ISU still isn't a tournament team, so I don't think he's anywhere close to as important as Kanter or Selby to college basketball or the NCAA.

Link? Source?
 

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Name the applicable movie quote:

"Yall know what a Japanese inspection is? Its when the Japanese get a load of lettuce in the country the’re not sure they want to let in they just let it sit on the docks till they’re good and ready to inspect it. Of course by then its all gone rotten,there’s nothing left to inspect…You see lettuce is a perishable item…like you two monkeys."


"Rubbin is racing".....Days of Thunder
 
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Pretty sure Rick Pitino is the head coach at Louisville. Same state, different city.

Royce will not be eligible to play this year, take it to the bank.

(but since it is Kentucky they have to find some reason to say that they don't believe the old coach but they have faith that Rick Pitino would not lie or break any rules.) Quote
This comment is even more significant when you get the right coach in place. Calapari cheat? How could you even imagine such a thing?
 

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I agree with your last sentence, so this is moot, but Selby and Kanter are both top 5 freshmen on top 10 teams. White is a top 30 guy on a top 100 team. Even if White is cleared, ISU still isn't a tournament team, so I don't think he's anywhere close to as important as Kanter or Selby to college basketball or the NCAA.

Why does it matter if KU and UK are top 10 teams, does that give them some preference in the eyes of the NCAA? It shouldn't matter where the team is ranked and how good the player is, they should all be treated equally.
 

kucyclone

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Why does it matter if KU and UK are top 10 teams, does that give them some preference in the eyes of the NCAA? It shouldn't matter where the team is ranked and how good the player is, they should all be treated equally.

...which is exactly what I said with the first 6 words of my post that you quoted.


Link? Source?

Common sense.
 
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Cyhart

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...which is exactly what I said with the first 6 words of my post that you quoted.




Common sense.

I completely disagree. Look how DG played in OT against Kansas St with no Brackins around. We dont know how big of a year this Senior will have. We dont know how much veteran senior Jake Anderson is going to bring to the table. But we know this is a guards game. We dont know how big of a year lock-down defender Ejim might have. Vanderbecken can stroke the 3. And then we add Royce. No one really knows just how big of a beast he will be down low. But Hoiberg says thats exactly what he is. So if Royce actually gets cleared, no, I completely disagree that its "common sense" that we wouldn't make the NCAA Tournament.
 

Cydkar

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I have to agree that thinking that this team can make the NCAA tournament contradicts common sense. Spin it how you want but that notion is crazy. Have stranger things happened? Sure, but by definition common sense didn't support the craziness that ensued. Thinking that this team is NCAA tournament material will only lead to heartache.
 

CloneFan65

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I predict the NCAA will rule in March that White is eligible for the 2010/11 season, therefore he loses this year of eligibility even though he didn't play.
 

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