Since it was an offensive problem, I'd say Mess. But Mess isn't blocking and he isn't turning it over so I just want to see other opinions.
Who do you blame the loss on?
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Easy to pick just one. Jantz no brainer. Dude averaged 0.4 yards per completion in the 1st half for a total of 3 yards. Stupid mistakes. Instead of passing to a wide open receiver he would throw it into double coverage. List goes on and on.
They were good until they got to tired to rush the passer. Right it's not there fault, but they sure didn't stop the run. LBs and DBs played outstanding. The only reason Doege had 300 pass yards was because they were always 10 yard dinkers that turned into 15 because of our tackling, or lack there of.
it's time for mess to get a talking to by Rhoads he calls plays like McCarney did, he's too damn conservative we had guys running open deep all night but it seemed like the "1" read was short instead of long, also running it twice into the line for 3 yards every offensive series won't work. frankly herman was 10x the OC than mess has been so far, shoulda hired outside the program
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Coach Rhoads.
Sorry, not the popular choice, but that is ultimately what it comes down to. He gets all the accolades for the big wins, he should get the criticism for the losses. This is HIS team, there are no longer any players on this team that were not recruited by him.
Sorry, not the popular choice, but that is ultimately what it comes down to. He gets all the accolades for the big wins, he should get the criticism for the losses. This is HIS team, there are no longer any players on this team that were not recruited by him.
I voted for the Offensive Line because they were "Very Offensive"....The Tx Tech D-Line had a field day all nite and Steel Kantz was a sitting duck and without a running game this offense mite as well keep sitting their Fat A***S on the bench.
You could make the case and it was mentioned last nite by eric that the next 6 teams are all better than Tech.
If the Offensive Line doesnt get better in a hurry it could be a six game losing streak real quick.
Oh well at Ia State we are still a basketball school trying and I mean trying to play football and its still not working.
After 50 years I should be used to losing but IM NOT
You could make the case and it was mentioned last nite by eric that the next 6 teams are all better than Tech.
If the Offensive Line doesnt get better in a hurry it could be a six game losing streak real quick.
Oh well at Ia State we are still a basketball school trying and I mean trying to play football and its still not working.
After 50 years I should be used to losing but IM NOT
We got out-coached.
We made ineffective adjustments. Tech had an answer for just about everything. Our offense was predictable.
PS: Who calls a play-action on 3rd and 10 while we are on our own side of the field?
We made ineffective adjustments. Tech had an answer for just about everything. Our offense was predictable.
PS: Who calls a play-action on 3rd and 10 while we are on our own side of the field?
The OL was horrible, just plain horrible, and if they can't get a push or protect SJ than it is going to be hard to do anything else, period. SJ did stink it up out there, but if the Clones could have run at all or protected at all he would not be put in the situation where he had to pass, and run for his life every time he had to do it.
I knew this team would miss Hicks and KO, it just did not show until last night. The OL coach has claimed all along that this years line would be fine, but so far TT and Iowa have man handled them up front. Iowa was just slow enough on the edge that the RB could do something.
I knew this team would miss Hicks and KO, it just did not show until last night. The OL coach has claimed all along that this years line would be fine, but so far TT and Iowa have man handled them up front. Iowa was just slow enough on the edge that the RB could do something.
For me its a combination of play calling, offensive line, receivers and Jantz. I picked Mess just because that was some of the worst play calling I have seen in years.
the offense was offensive. no idea why it took till the game was out of reach to run a screen play to a running back. with the amount of pressure they were bringing we should have ran a few more of those earlier in the game.
i also don't think we have utilized brun enough in the passing game-and i've felt this way all year. he is a huge athletic target with above average hands. i'm a drunken fan that doesnt break down tape or claim to know more than anyone about the actual game, just throwing my two cents out and hoping someone with more insight can either agree with me or tell me why i'm wrong.
but i was begging for a screen pass and when we finally called one it went for about 9 yards and a first down. our rbs are explosive. get them the ball in space!!!
i also don't think we have utilized brun enough in the passing game-and i've felt this way all year. he is a huge athletic target with above average hands. i'm a drunken fan that doesnt break down tape or claim to know more than anyone about the actual game, just throwing my two cents out and hoping someone with more insight can either agree with me or tell me why i'm wrong.
but i was begging for a screen pass and when we finally called one it went for about 9 yards and a first down. our rbs are explosive. get them the ball in space!!!
Yes there are many things that went wrong on offense. BUT, There is one thing and one thing only that should be pointed out for blame... IF YOU ARE A D1, repeat D1... QB, you better for the love of god NOT drop a football! Hooooooooly $:/t batman! Are you kidding me!? You can't do that!?!? I don't care if your joe $-&#^*# Montana. Go play for drake! I'd rather have a right handed qb with no right arm, if he can hold onto it with his left I consider him better then Steele Jantz. Winning people, that's the goal! That's why coaches get paid millions a year, not to defend their players and say, don't blame Steele. Do your job and yank him! Never should have stepped back on the field after that kind of mistake, ever! And don't tell me "but he makes some great plays" because when you DROP the football...that erases every hailmary flea flicking diving touchdown catch spectacular play that you have ever made!!! Us fans pay good money for seasons tickets to win or at least do things to give us a damn chance. Oh and the play calling you say???.... No play calling in the history of football will work when your QUARTERBACK drops the football!!! Drop? Really? Realllllly?! Mind blowing!
Sincerely,
One p*$$*d off fan that thinks Steele Jantz should never play another game at ISU.
Sincerely,
One p*$$*d off fan that thinks Steele Jantz should never play another game at ISU.
Yeah, there is a reason KO is in the NFL. ISU has some major problems all over that line. Although there are many concerns including QB, receivers that simply get abused with any contact, a kicker that can't kick...O line is my biggest concern, starting to wonder what is going on there. ISU o line looks slow, weak and just unable to control the line.
When you run the same plays over and over again and every play is in the area of 8 yards or less you are setting your offense up for failure. Its called spreading the defense out not everyone close knit holding hands and singing kum by ya. No wonder why everyone packs the box and brings there safeties in. You are suppose to keep the defense on its toes. Hermans offense did not work for how many years yet we keep the same offensive schemes with coach mess. Steele does make horrible decisions but the offensive play calling is horrid too. keep everything short and the defense is going to continue to bring everyone up its not going to open up the running game either. We have great running backs hand the ball off and on the snap hit that hole. The delay hand offs just give the defense time to fill the gaps.
