Who does ISU go after

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Wrestling is different from other sports where the best competitors are not the best coaches. In wrestling, they generally are one in the same. I believe that coaching wrestling at this level is mostly about A) recruiting and B) motivation. Therefore, I don't need my HC to have previous coaching experience. Is Jordan Borroughs about ready to hang them up? What about Kyle Dake, David Taylor or Jake Varner? Let's get some young blood in the program.
Would add to your list of what it is to coach at this level. I base this on a conversation a few years ago with Rob Koll. He said he divides his days into 3 functions: 1) working with the wrestlers in the room, 2) recruiting, and 3) fundraising. He said it was more than a full time job, and all 3 of those functions had to receive priority attention. I agree that recruiting and enthusiasm are critical, but there is more to it than that. Rob should know.
 
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It sounds like you think I'm saying I think KJ should stay and that's it. I'm definitely not, I'm just someone giving an outside perspective. If there's someone who will produce better results by all means he should have the job. But they should be a lot better not just marginally better. Regarding results from 2013 to last year ISU has finished 11th, 12th, 14th, and 12th at the NCAA championships. If that's not just outside the top ten I don't know what is.

He actually was, when Tom Ryan got to Hofstra they were a door mat for division 1 wrestling and by the time he left they were a top 10 team

I mostly just find your premise laughable. If one could accurately predict the future we wouldn't even have to wrestle the matches. There are no guarantees in sports or life.

Given the resources at ISU it is reasonable for a quality coach to come in and perform better.
 

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It has been answered already but yes, Ryan was a desired name in coaching when Ohio State got him. Remember, he was the fallback candidate as OSU swung and missed at Cael and this is partially what got us moving to push Douglas aside and hire Cael when we did.

Pritzlaff intrigues me some. Bono is a douche and won't improve us IMO. If it is Nick Mitchell, JP should just give back that extension right now cause he was not working if that was the best he can do.

JP will have to pay as he has a tarnished rep in the wrestling world

You're right that Ryan was a desired and established name but he was actually no better than 3rd on their list: When Brands indicated to Gable that Ohio State was on him next, Gable called Bowlsby and the rest is history.

I wouldn't be disappointed in Mitchell. He's a great developer of talent. I think he could do well.
 
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Just curious, do you think he'd produce better results if he had ISU's resources and support?

Maybe, but not much. I like the guy but he's been at UNI for awhile now. They finished 25th at NCAA's last year, 34th the year before and 15th the two years prior to that.
 
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I think you have to make a run at Burroughs, Taylor, and Dake. I'd also consider Popolizio.. what he has done at NC State is impressive. Not sure if any of these guys would be interested or not. I also wonder about Nick Mitchell.. I know its not a "name" hire, but I'm intrigued. It's not unprecedented for coaches to jump from lower levels of wrestling and having success at the DI level, just look at Kevin Dresser at VT.
Don't know what Dake is looking for, but to get Dake, another Cornell alumnus, Pollard would have to demonstrate major change, because of what Nicherson experienced here.
 
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Just curious, do you think he'd produce better results if he had ISU's resources and support?

I like Schwab a lot and think he's a solid coach but he hasn't accomplished enough at UNI to seriously be considered, IMHO. He's has done OK considering UNI's woeful lack of resources and he's had an awful string of luck with illness and injury. But, at the end of the day, it's about wins and placing and he hasn't done enough of it.
 

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Hire two co-coaches, Burroughs and Varner. Knowing they have no head coacing experience. 160K each. Success would pay for itself.
 
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I don't know why but for some reason Cody Sanderson is really intriguing to me. Don't think he will leave Cael tho.

I don't think he will either. From what I've heard he is the main technician and the one who runs practices @ PSU.

Maybe Casey Cunningham? Idk if he would leave Cael either but probably more likely than Cody.
 
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I mostly just find your premise laughable. If one could accurately predict the future we wouldn't even have to wrestle the matches. There are no guarantees in sports or life.

Given the resources at ISU it is reasonable for a quality coach to come in and perform better.
Guys who get paid to cover and talk about these things feel the same way, I stated that I agreed with them and then told you why, but to each his own I guess. I still genuinely would like to know why you think hiring KJ in the first place was a reach. More so now that you've said this bolded statement.
 

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Cody or Casey would be good choices

Don't think Pop goes anywhere. Same for Burroughs, Taylor and Dake.
These are the type of guys we should go after. Guys who have been coaching for quite a while and have spent a lot of time with a successful program. Having a prior connection to Iowa State doesn't hurt either. Prefer Cody mainly because he has the experience of being the head guy at Utah Valley when they started their program but would be more than okay with Cunningham.
 
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Need to find someone to keep these 2 classes together.
I think the Paulsons need to be in the mix.

We are still assuming a change will be made
 

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Regarding whether a change will be made: this month marks the first time that the whole of posters on CF seem to agree (vocally or tacitly) that KJ should be done. Not that Pollard takes his cues from CF, but this fan sentiment means something.
 
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Not exactly sure.
Need to find someone to keep these 2 classes together.
I think the Paulsons need to be in the mix.

We are still assuming a change will be made


I want to keep the recruits, I also like whoever is responsible for them. Would be nice to keep getting those recruits, but seeing the UNI performance, development isn't happening at all. I'm more of find a good coaching staff (they way we did it with FB with Campbell) and clean house. The UNI meet was the last straw, a couple wrestlers bothered me enough that I was hoping they didn't see the mat again.

Schwab? No. People ask if he could compete if he had our resources? They have been pouring money into the UNI program to catch it up for almost as long as he's been there. I got a full tour of west gym from a wrestlers while they were refurbishing it. Facilities may not be completely up to top 5-10 standards but they weren't way far behind.
 

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I want to keep the recruits, I also like whoever is responsible for them. Would be nice to keep getting those recruits, but seeing the UNI performance, development isn't happening at all. I'm more of find a good coaching staff (they way we did it with FB with Campbell) and clean house. The UNI meet was the last straw, a couple wrestlers bothered me enough that I was hoping they didn't see the mat again.

I'm mostly with you there, but keeping the current redshirts and the incoming freshman is extremely important. Keep them and you're looking at making a run over the next few seasons. Lose them and the next few seasons will be an almost total rebuild.
 

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Need to find someone to keep these 2 classes together.
I think the Paulsons need to be in the mix.

We are still assuming a change will be made
Definitely fine with keeping one of the Paulsons, but only as the 3rd assistant. Not a head assistant.
 
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