Who else is worried?
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Did anyone think, heading into the season, we’d have a significantly better record than we do, at this point in the season, given the schedule, loss of Kane & Ejim, and a balance of returning big-timers with uncertainties about the newcomers?
The loss at Tech was horrendous (falling behind by 19 points in the first half, on the road, vs. the worst team in the conference is a joke), and SC loss looks even worse than it seemed at the time.
Beyond that — every other loss has come away from home, to probable tournament locks: Maryland (neutral), at KU, at Baylor and at OU. And Iowa State has wins over locks/probable-locks KU, Arkansas, at West Virginia, OSU, Texas and at Iowa.
ISU squandered opportunities at Kansas and at Oklahoma, for sure, and a few wins don’t look as encouraging today (at WVU).
Plenty of details about this year’s team have been frustrating to watch, but a bunch of elements are at the highest point of the Hoiberg era so far, too. (When it’s clicking, it’s insanely pleasing). I’ve also seen the latter aspect occur, in spurts, even during games that eventually went south.
Did fans anticipate Big 12 to be this competitive, among the top 7 or 8 teams? Did performance in pre-conference season suggest the team ought to bolt to a 10-1 start in the league, or something?
Room for improvement, yes. Cause for serious alarm, not really.
The loss at Tech was horrendous (falling behind by 19 points in the first half, on the road, vs. the worst team in the conference is a joke), and SC loss looks even worse than it seemed at the time.
Beyond that — every other loss has come away from home, to probable tournament locks: Maryland (neutral), at KU, at Baylor and at OU. And Iowa State has wins over locks/probable-locks KU, Arkansas, at West Virginia, OSU, Texas and at Iowa.
ISU squandered opportunities at Kansas and at Oklahoma, for sure, and a few wins don’t look as encouraging today (at WVU).
Plenty of details about this year’s team have been frustrating to watch, but a bunch of elements are at the highest point of the Hoiberg era so far, too. (When it’s clicking, it’s insanely pleasing). I’ve also seen the latter aspect occur, in spurts, even during games that eventually went south.
Did fans anticipate Big 12 to be this competitive, among the top 7 or 8 teams? Did performance in pre-conference season suggest the team ought to bolt to a 10-1 start in the league, or something?
Room for improvement, yes. Cause for serious alarm, not really.
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Agree. Oklahoma was unbelievable on some of those 3s, but so were we. But that 2-3 minute stretch at the end of the first half we really fell asleep.
Also worried about how the starting lineup switch will hurt the team now that it didn't seem to help.
I also think Fred favors offense too much. He takes people out who aren't performing offensively but doesn't do that for defense or rebounding. They should have been sending everybody to the defensive glass but weren't
I also think Fred favors offense too much. He takes people out who aren't performing offensively but doesn't do that for defense or rebounding. They should have been sending everybody to the defensive glass but weren't
In regards to McKay starting over BDJ (that is the only difference) I hope you had the same reservations after the beatdown of Texas Tech in Hilton on Saturday as you do today following a road defeat to #17 Oklahoma?
I seriously doubt the lineup change had ANYTHING to do with losing. Especially given that we had such a great first half (arguably our best start on the road all year) up until those last couple mins of turnovers where we pee'd away our 10 point lead. Which the starting lineup had nothing to do with it at that point in the game...This is the same lineup that obliterated the team we embarrassingly lost to earlier in Lubbock when we had the "old" lineup for.
This I can somewhat get behind. If someone (not singling out anyone in particular) is not shooting well/executing offensively then Fred will get someone else who potentially can in the game.
However, if we are getting dominated on the glass, he won't put in someone who will box out, crash the boards, and defend our rebounds at all costs. He'll just sub in more shooting to try and make up for it.
Getting nasty, fighting for loose balls, boxing out, rebounding the ball cleanly...these are things we aren't preaching to our team well enough IMO. Hoiball preaches a lot of great things offensively...being unselfish, spacing, finding mismatches. But this team just needs to find a better balance to become successful come March/tournaments.
I used to hate losing because then I would have to talk to Hawkeye fans would mercilessly insult my team. Now it's because of Cyclone "fans" doing the same thing.
Not a bit worried. in 6 weeks it will all be over and I can move on to baseball, tulips and spring football.
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This is the ultimate. Dejean Jones is selfish because he is trying to fill the stat sheet with assists. He is our best rebounder, has been shooting very efficiently as of late and he is one of the few guys that actually dives after loose balls. His shot selection can be questionable at times and can get out of control attacking the basket, but he has been playing hard and has been efficient doing it.
Not worried at all. We lost on the road to a good team. Most top 25 teams will.
The only thing that I hope we clean up is free throws. I can see teams playing Hack a Shaq with us in a tight NCAA game. Right now, BDJ is about the only guy I think will nail both before he steps to the line.
The only thing that I hope we clean up is free throws. I can see teams playing Hack a Shaq with us in a tight NCAA game. Right now, BDJ is about the only guy I think will nail both before he steps to the line.
OU is not one of the top teams. If we cannot figure how to fend these guys off, it will not go long in the NCAA.
I thought we would have been undefeated in the non conference. I was wrong and realism set in. We were a tougher matchup last year. Our inability to post up and clear the area is less this year. Georges scored seven points after coming in shooting threes very well in past games. Hougue was leading scorer, yet took few shots the second half. The person guarding Buddy Hield the second half did not play tough enough. Matt was Matt. Nader needs to practice kicking a few out on his drives. McKay was McKay. BDJ took a thirty two footer for some reason. MM was Man Man. Just the only one who excelled was Hogue last night on offense.
In the end, the defense never showed up. Looked like our football team.
