Why are Farmers never happy?

Are farmers too needy?

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madguy30

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You keep bringing up water quality, but you are misinformed. Cities dump waste water into streams, lakes, and oceans. City dwellers fertilize lawns sometimes at 100x rate because they have no idea what they are doing just to have a pretty lawn. When it rains in the city it dumps into storm drains and runs directly into water sources Meanwhile farmers do everything they can to have enough fertilizer to raise a profitable crop which in return raises the food you eat. You are the problem.

Most trout streams in SW Wisconsin, many of which have gotten choked up due to pollution, don't go through cities.

All humans pollute but I can't get on board with 'it is what it is'-ness with making problems with drinking water.
 

JP4CY

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You just proved my point. You have no idea how many actual pounds of fertilizer per acre you are putting on. A farmer does and it is no where close to the same rate. Yours is for looks. Theirs is to grow food for you
Actually I could mathematically figure out pounds per acre but it's also not the same product that farmers use so a comparison isn't apples to apples.
You seem to have a very strong opinion on this so I'll just be done chatting with you about it.
 

BWRhasnoAC

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Most trout streams in SW Wisconsin, many of which have gotten choked up due to pollution, don't go through cities.

All humans pollute but I can't get on board with 'it is what it is'-ness with making problems with drinking water.
The next generation of wars will be over water.
 
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royalcy

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Actually I could mathematically figure out pounds per acre but it's also not the same product that farmers use so a comparison isn't apples to apples.
You seem to have a very strong opinion on this so I'll just be done chatting with you about it.
Do the math then. I have no idea what products you are using but I’m sure setting 4.5 is exactly what the epa says to use
 

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The next generation of wars will be over water.

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NorthCyd

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You keep bringing up water quality, but you are misinformed. Cities dump waste water into streams, lakes, and oceans. City dwellers fertilize lawns sometimes at 100x rate because they have no idea what they are doing just to have a pretty lawn. When it rains in the city it dumps into storm drains and runs directly into water sources Meanwhile farmers do everything they can to have enough fertilizer to raise a profitable crop which in return raises the food you eat. You are the problem.
Do those things happen in Iowa, sure. Do they have anywhere near the impact that agriculture does, not even close. Common sense should tell you that based on percentage of land use in row crop agriculture in Iowa. But if you need it there are lots of studies to back it up. It's not even debatable.
 

DeereClone

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Actually I could mathematically figure out pounds per acre but it's also not the same product that farmers use so a comparison isn't apples to apples.
You seem to have a very strong opinion on this so I'll just be done chatting with you about it.

It’s not a difficult math equation….go ahead.
 
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BWRhasnoAC

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What exactly is the criticism?
Well mine chiefly would be that farmers are fine with accepting public funds for their own needs, but the majority are not ok with helping to make cleaner waters for Iowa. Not even through simple means like bio reactors or adding marsh lands to buffer run off. Some do, but not many and now the public has to pay to clean the fertilizers out of the river and drill for fresh water.
 

Marcelason78

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Most trout streams in SW Wisconsin, many of which have gotten choked up due to pollution, don't go through cities.
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I live in the WI Driftless and have not heard this. What county trout streams are you referring to?
 

Big Daddy Kang

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No CFAP or WHIP payment? No tarrif bailout payment? The subsidies absolutely have to stop but the politicians won’t stop because it’s a great folksy feel good story to talk about when they stop at Ma and Pa’s Diner on Main Street in a small town in a brand new flannel shirt they’ve never worn.

Some farmers *****, some don’t. Usually the ones that do the most ******** have the most time on their hands. A lot like the cave posters on here.
The farm subsidy nonsense will stop when Iowa loses it's outsized importance in presidential elections.

Still looking for an intellectually honest justification for ethanol.
 

michaelrr1

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Well if your whole crop is ruined, it’s probably a better idea than to go bankrupt. I never said anything about accept money. I said our family would rather harvest the crop than take money. So quit arguing points that I didn’t make

Umm, well I guess you're right. You didn't say ACCEPT, but despite your poor spelling, you most certainly did bring it up.

Actually our family would rather harvest the crop and do it the right way rather than except money.
 
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DeereClone

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Well mine chiefly would be that farmers are fine with accepting public funds for their own needs, but the majority are not ok with helping to make cleaner waters for Iowa. Not even through simple means like bio reactors or adding marsh lands to buffer run off. Some do, but not many and now the public has to pay to clean the fertilizers out of the river and drill for fresh water.

I’ve tested water coming out of my tile outlets and usually it comes back as being safe drinking water. The CRP and WRP have been very successful on sensitive acres for erosion and buffers.
 

cowgirl836

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You just proved my point. You have no idea how many actual pounds of fertilizer per acre you are putting on. A farmer does and it is no where close to the same rate. Yours is for looks. Theirs is to grow food for you

If they're in Iowa it's mostly for livestock, not people.
 

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