Why is hanging on the rim a technical?

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CycoCyclone

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It was a freakish dunk, and no one was under him (although a CU player arrived later).

Take the T and the standing Ovation from Hilton's crowd.
 

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Does anyone on this board know how to ******* read?

The question is not should Godfrey have gotten a technical for hanging on the rim?

The question is why is hanging on the rim a technical?

I've heard that then hanging would become common place causing the rims to fail and endangering the players, but how many dunks do you see a game.

I've heard that it is taunting, but I've seen players severely hurt because their momentum takes them to the basket and they DON'T grab the rim hard because they are afraid of the taunting Technical.

I still haven't heard anything about the fans. I'm glad someone posted Calvin's video. Did you see the fan reaction? Is it a bad thing to allow a play that absolutely blows the roof off a building because of excitement?

I've heard the obvious well he did a chin up and that is just uncalled for. I ask anyone who has actually dunked if they've ever tried to stop their momentum so they didn't land on their back. Is it easier to pull yourself up then swing arm extended, and does it really matter if the rim and backboard can easily take it a couple times a game?

Now back to the question why is hanging on the rim a technical?
If he doesn't do a chin up, then he doesn't get the T and the crowd has as big of a reaction to the dunk. The chin up got him the tech. hang on for safety and drop down. It is that simple.
The fans didn't cheer because he hung on the rim. They cheered because he had a monster dunk at a crucial time in the game
 

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It's a million dollar question, really.

Because only about 7 or 8 people have actually posted on the actual question. I'd say if a Mod was actually doing his job, he would have made the point that the question is pretty clear for the tread, and once the attacks and spin of my words would have started, he could have clarified it. Didn't happen, so I attempted to salvage what I thought was a very legitimate and insightful question that I've asked myself at least 5 times after watching a major dunking injury. Clearly, I was mistaken in my faith of this community. I thought this morning maybe a different crowd might have a different opinion, but the same schmucks with nothing better to do but post thousands of posts are back at it. So this is my last post for at least a couple days. I'm sure I'll give an opinion after the KSU game and the Big 12 tourney, but for now, it clearly isn't worth it.
 
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The question is why is hanging on the rim a technical.
Straight from the NCAA basketball rulebook:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BR11.pdf

Section 3. Hanging/Grasping on the Ring

Players should not be permitted to hang on or grasp the basket ring in an
excessive, emphatic manner during dunks when there is no possibility of a
resulting injury occurring. The intent of the rule does not permit a player
to hold the ring and lift his or her body or legs, or in general, hang on or
grasp the ring for emphasis. This is especially true for a player who dunks the ball on a breakaway or when no defender is nearby. Injuries, sometimes serious, can occur as a result of grasping/hanging on the ring. Game delays also result when damaged equipment must be fixed or replaced. When there is no obvious injury circumstance to be avoided by grasping/hanging on the ring, doing so in an emphatic matter is a (men) CLASS B and (women) Player/Substitute technical foul.


In short: Godfrey received a technical foul last night because there was no injury risk to be avoided. Essentially, he was T-upped for a "delay of game."
 

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Is there a video of this somewhere? One of my sons also just told me that a Colorado player was running under Godfrey as he finished the dunk, and he watched it on tv. If he pulled himself back up on the rim, it could have been to protect himself, but even if it wasn't, it was not an "in your face" gesture like you see so many times by players. It was a game ending celebratory slam. Let the players have some fun for crying out loud. He did not get up into anybody's face.

See post #55 in this thread.

Because only about 7 or 8 people have actually posted on the actual question. I'd say if a Mod was actually doing his job, he would have made the point that the question is pretty clear for the tread, and once the attacks and spin of my words would have started, he could have clarified it. Didn't happen, so I attempted to salvage what I thought was a very legitimate and insightful question that I've asked myself at least 5 times after watching a major dunking injury. Clearly, I was mistaken in my faith of this community. I thought this morning maybe a different crowd might have a different opinion, but the same schmucks with nothing better to do but post thousands of posts are back at it. So this is my last post for at least a couple days. I'm sure I'll give an opinion after the KSU game and the Big 12 tourney, but for now, it clearly isn't worth it.

No, your question has been answered, it's just not the answer you want to hear. There are several reasons why it's a technical that have been mentioned in this thread, including the fact that it can weaken/damage the rim and/or backboard structure, as well as, for example, the way Godfrey hung last night, is a direct taunt/showboat at the opponent, which will be called regardless of whether it's hanging on the rim or gesturing toward their bench.

The answer that YOU ARE PERSONALLY LOOKING FOR (and why you keep stating "nobody's answering the original question") is "Mygawd, you're right - there's no excuse for a ref to ever call a T for hanging on the rim. It's just an outright conspiracy by the refs against Iowa State because they always want us to suck at everything." Unfortunately for you, most of us have a lot more common sense and maturity than that.
 

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Because only about 7 or 8 people have actually posted on the actual question. I'd say if a Mod was actually doing his job, he would have made the point that the question is pretty clear for the tread, and once the attacks and spin of my words would have started, he could have clarified it. Didn't happen, so I attempted to salvage what I thought was a very legitimate and insightful question that I've asked myself at least 5 times after watching a major dunking injury. Clearly, I was mistaken in my faith of this community. I thought this morning maybe a different crowd might have a different opinion, but the same schmucks with nothing better to do but post thousands of posts are back at it. So this is my last post for at least a couple days. I'm sure I'll give an opinion after the KSU game and the Big 12 tourney, but for now, it clearly isn't worth it.
jbtexas and I have responded to your question with the reason. I have also refuted you"to prevent injury" claim but you do not respond to my posts.

Why is it you keep banging the "prevent injury" drum. Players can hang on the rim to prevent injury. Hanging on the rim to prevent injury is allowed.

It is truly a safety issue. If the NCAA allowed players to hang on the rim and the rim/structure failed then there is a safety and liability issue. No matter how small the chances, there is an issue.

On top of that you have a sportsmanship issue. If you allow them to hang on the rim, how long do you allow it? Let's say KU is beatign ISU by 20 and gets a monster dunk. Can the guy sit there and do pull ups for a full posssesion? Where do you draw the line? That is really what you are arguing. The NCAA draws the line at anything that is unnecessary.
 

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NO I'M NOT!!! (Loud Noises!!!)

It's not a matter that Godfrey hung on the rim - it's a matter that he was SHOWING UP THE OTHER TEAM. That will ALWAYS earn you a technical, whether he was hanging on the rim or not...

Wait, hold the presses! You're saying that good sportsmanship has something to do with college athletics?!!!
 

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jbtexas and I have responded to your question with the reason. I have also refuted you"to prevent injury" claim but you do not respond to my posts.

Why is it you keep banging the "prevent injury" drum. Players can hang on the rim to prevent injury. Hanging on the rim to prevent injury is allowed.


It is truly a safety issue. If the NCAA allowed players to hang on the rim and the rim/structure failed then there is a safety and liability issue. No matter how small the chances, there is an issue.

On top of that you have a sportsmanship issue. If you allow them to hang on the rim, how long do you allow it? Let's say KU is beatign ISU by 20 and gets a monster dunk. Can the guy sit there and do pull ups for a full posssesion? Where do you draw the line? That is really what you are arguing. The NCAA draws the line at anything that is unnecessary.

Here's why:

The answer that YOU ARE PERSONALLY LOOKING FOR (and why you keep stating "nobody's answering the original question") is "Mygawd, you're right - there's no excuse for a ref to ever call a T for hanging on the rim. It's just an outright conspiracy by the refs against Iowa State because they always want us to suck at everything." Unfortunately for you, most of us have a lot more common sense and maturity than that.
 

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The question is why is hanging on the rim a technical.

The obvious answer is that it shows poor sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is still emphasized at all levels of basketball. There is your answer, take it or leave it.
 

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No actually the officials "petty" call turned the cheers into boos. It was the call that got by far the loudest and longest booing all night.
 

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I am closing this thread. You can call me the names I saw used in this thread against other members.

Remember CF tries to be a friendly community. Please debate the topic and not the person stating an opinion.
 
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