Why so angry this year

rochclone

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“This team has trouble fighting through adversity”...this is why I ******* hate people.

Agreed. You can question some things about Prohm’s in-game coaching, but I feel like his ability to get the team to respond to adversity has been showcased plenty over the last 4 years. This is actual a strength for CSP.
 

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I'm only disappointed in the loss. We place unrealistic expectations on a man who's livelihood depends on how KIDS respond under pressure under long periods of time. That man has taken us to 3 NCAAs, 2 conference tourney championships, and reloaded our talent while he balances out the classes.

Oh - his kids are CHARACTER kids who represent the university in many positive ways.

I don’t disagree at all. I think Jared hit it on the head during the end of the year podcast. What are the expectations for Iowa State basketball? I think some believe this is a Top 25 program while others believe it is a Top 40 program. If you are a Top 25 program then simply getting to the tournament every year is the base line requirement.
 
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I don’t disagree at all. I think Jared hit it on the head during the end of the year podcast. What are the expectations for Iowa State basketball? I think some believe this is a Top 25 program while others believe it is a Top 40 program. If you are a Top 25 program then simply getting to the tournament every year is the base line requirement.

So the program is currently meeting the requirements then.
 
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Why so much anger...? Because anger is fun. It establishes us versus them. Our monkey brains eat that stuff up. Watch five minutes of cable news programs.

In the 20th Century, we figured out that sex sold.

In the 21st Century, we figured out that anger sold.

We are victims of our own success. Our lives have become so safe, prosperous, plentiful, easy, and anodyne (on any historical scale, compared to what it was like to be a factory worker in the early portions of the industrial revolution, a peasant, serf, or slave anywhere between 1700 AD and 10,000 BC, or a hunter-gather between then and roughly 200,000 years) ago on a day-to-day basis that the tribal plains ape inside all of us is bored to death.

It wants blood, violence, action, sex, aggression, vendetta -- the things that put our species and specifically our particular ancestors (as opposed to others long forgotten) on top.

To placate this instinct lately, however, we have mostly taken to performative flame wars on mostly symbolic questions or topics that do not really mean much regarding the fate of the world. ISU's record in basketball definitely falls into these categories. Roughly 95%+ (and heading northwards by the day) of our politics is the same, but that is another (if related) topic.

This season was not really much different than any of our other successful ones from the Hoiberg era, the 1990s, or the Johnny Orr era. We are just more bored as a society nowadays, have normalized rage monkeys, and have larger megaphones for it now.

I am sure there were the proverbial "drunk at the end of the bar" types wanting Orr and Floyd's heads back in the day, too. You might have even listened to them for a laugh a few times, too. Yet, that was all they were and all they could reach. You could always just walk away when you were bored of it. Now they have a smartphone, Twitter, and an LTE connection.
 
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I'm not mad at the players. At all.

This is where my anger is directed right now:

1. Iowa for winning and getting further than us
2. Refs for running a train on us last night
3. Prohm's coaching (or lack thereof) last night
4. Kaleb Wesson's style of UFC basketball
5. Jinxers who should know better
6. March Madness for getting me all excited and then delivering such a letdown
7. Big12 Basketball Tournament for making me think we were good again
8. James Naismith for inventing this game that hurts so bad today
9. Jim Jackson for being such a Phuckeye homer
10. My wife for filling up my weekend schedule now that she knows I don't have basketball to watch

In that order.

Damn it GTO the ladies are still playing don't give in yet!
 
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Do we know he hasn’t been yelled at in practice? I’ve heard practice has been rough.

We see these guys for 2 hours twice a week. We don’t know everything that goes on nor should we.

I agree with this.

My issue is, in game, with tens of thousands of people watching, when THT is fading away and airballing shots continuously because he wants to add another 3-4 seconds on a highlight reel. maybe try lighting a fire under his ass in game.
 
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It took me to the last page so I’m sure it’s been mentioned but “why so angry” is the social media-ing of society.
 

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Our fans tend to rate the Big 12 tournament pretty high based on the number of people that attend and the lack of attendance in Tulsa.

If Iowa State fans cared about the NCAA they would save their money for the NCAA rather than spend a weekend in Kansas City.

The Kansas City romance goes way back to the 1st time that Johnny Orr got us to the championship game against the Okies and Wayman Tisdale....and that KC fever started then and has never broken and probably never will....I know I enjoy the KC tourney a whole lot more than the ncaa's....I hate to admit it, but that is where I stand.....
 

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The Kansas City romance goes way back to the 1st time that Johnny Orr got us to the championship game against the Okies and Wayman Tisdale....and that KC fever started then and has never broken and probably never will....I know I enjoy the KC tourney a whole lot more than the ncaa's....I hate to admit it, but that is where I stand.....

KC is a fun town and they've adopted ISU fans and we've embraced the city. Fun stuff to do, good food and pretty easy to get around. It's fun to go to KC when the opportunity arises.
 

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Message boards are a cess pool and being a fan was much more fun when they weren't around. But it's not like I can blame anyone for being on them since I think they are awful and here I am.

But my main question is why is there so much anger this year? The absolute hatred towards the team and the coaches is sickening. We were picked to finish 6th. We finished 5th. Like plenty of good teams we lost in the first round of the tournament. It happens.

The argument that a lot will make is that this team is a lot more talented than the season indicated. That could be true. But I tend to think that was very talented but also had limitations. And when you have specific limitations, you lose games.

It will be a cold day in hell when I will be disappointing in a 23 win season, with a Big 12 tourney championship, and an NCAA bid. Was it the best thing ever? Of course not. But was it a good season? Yes. And, as a fan, I am allowed to think that. I expect the coaches and players are disappointed and will work to fix what happened. I think a lot of you seem to think that success is measured only as "the greatest season that ever was" or "the worst of the worst, they did nothing right". It's not a binary thing. It's a good season with plenty of great things that happened and plenty of bad things that happened (and two really ******* awful things!).

I hope that Prohm is our coach next year. But one could hardly blame him for leaving because I bet a large portion of you idiots are tweeting and emailing him that same ******** that you are spewing on here and the Iowa State basketball facebook page.

If you are one of the fans that is so ******* angry that they think we should change coaches, then I invite you to go be a Nebraska fan or a SDSU fan or an Iowa fan. Why subject yourself to be as miserable as you apparently are?
Good for you JSB, you've got balls (and I know not physiologically speaking)! I congratulate you for telling it like it is, or how you feel. I often feel the same way. Life as a fan maybe was better in some ways w/o the internet.

What we see on this site and others might be a microcosm of our society today. I don't mind criticism, and differences of opinion, but too often it seems like the imaginary line is crossed. It's like there is no line anymore. People are sometimes flat out mean, overly critical, pompous, etc. We often speak without thinking first, I don't know. As I get older I think it is better to think a little before speaking.

Good post, needed.