Wigginton declaring for NBA Draft, not hiring agent

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Westbrook is inhumanly quick with a lightning first step and handle. Wigginton is a great athlete for a college player, but he would be average in the NBA.
 
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Westbrook is inhumanly quick with a lightning first step and handle. Wigginton is a great athlete for a college player, but he would be average in the NBA.
I wasn't stating he was close to Westbrooks ability, I was just saying that Westbrook, because of the way he plays, you forget he is only 6'3. And I find myself thinking that when Lindell drives to the lane and takes on far bigger shot blockers and has no problem finishing regularly. But again, Lindell not equal to Westbrook.

I think the Donovan Mitchell comparison Tom Crean gave to Lindell is spot on.
 
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I wasn't stating he was close to Westbrooks ability, I was just saying that Westbrook, because of the way he plays, you forget he is only 6'3. And I find myself thinking that when Lindell drives to the lane and takes on far bigger shot blockers and has no problem finishing regularly. But again, Lindell not equal to Westbrook.

I think the Donovan Mitchell comparison Tom Crean gave to Lindell is spot on.

I was not comparing Lindell to Russ in the literal sense. Just on their styles.

Westbrook is an elite level athlete among even elite level athletes, which makes him unique. He blows by people. A guy that short usually has some sort of skill or gimmick that makes them a viable player in the NBA, and I am not sure that Wigginton has one yet (though he could develop one as a shooter, ball-handler, or even just finishing around the rim).

Westbrook's gimmick is just speed and determination. I am not sure anybody else has it.

I am surprised nobody has brought up Kyrie Irving. He is 6'3" / 190 and not an elite athlete and only a good ball-handler and shooter (and mediocre defender), but he is maybe the most creative guy in the league at finding a window and finishing at the rim from below people.

I agree, though, Mitchell would hopefully be a good comparison.
 
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I was not comparing Lindell to Russ in the literal sense. Just on their styles.

Westbrook is an elite level athlete among even elite level athletes, which makes him unique. He blows by people. A guy that short usually has some sort of skill or gimmick that makes them a viable player in the NBA, and I am not sure that Wigginton has one yet (though he could develop one as a shooter, ball-handler, or even just finishing around the rim).

I am surprised nobody has brought up Kyrie Irving. He is 6'3" and not an elite athlete and only a good ball-handler and shooter, but he is maybe the most creative guy in the league at finding a window and finishing at the rim from below people.

I agree, though, Mitchell would hopefully be a good comparison.
Kyrie is interesting, but the difference is Kyrie has the ball on a string whenever he has the ball and Lindell is nowhere close to that yet. Noone is close to the finisher that Kyrie is, but I see the creativity and ability in Lindell's finishes, in flashes.
 
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Yeah I think Lindell has a long way to go to be attractive to an NBA team. The rest of those guys who are 6'3 have crazy handles. Lindell does not have that. He has skills of a player in the nba who normally is 6'6 or 6'7. So he has so much to develop. Can he do it? Yes but he has a long way to go to get to the Kyrie or Russ levels.
 

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@TravisHines21 Iowa State’s Lindell Wigginton will declare for the NBA draft without an agent, Steve Prohm confirms. Paperwork yet to be submitted.

Sources told me they never had hotel rooms during the tournament in the Carolinas. Lindell was very upset and has had a rocky relationship with Pollard since. It's the whole reason he is leaving. Per my sources. My sources that are never wrong. No I won't release my sources.
 
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Yeah I think Lindell has a long way to go to be attractive to an NBA team. The rest of those guys who are 6'3 have crazy handles. Lindell does not have that. He has skills of a player in the nba who normally is 6'6 or 6'7. So he has so much to develop. Can he do it? Yes but he has a long way to go to get to the Kyrie or Russ levels.
I agree, he has a long way to go to being a All-Star/All-Pro PG. That is for sure.
 
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It ain't over till Randy weighs in and stupidly asks Lindell "So, is there anything to the fact that ISU HAS NOT issued a press release on your NBA test?" :rolleyes:
He probably already has done that, but just hasn’t tweeted it yet
 
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Blum has apparently tweeted that if he gets a combine invite that he’ll likely stay in the draft. And he thinks the combine invite will come. The actual tweet is less direct than this, but it seems like his usual inside info.

Blum usually seems to have inside info and tends to have the job of softening the blow for fans (he was the one telling everyone that Fred was leaving).

Therefore, I think Wigginton is gone.
 

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Couple quick questions about the process in general - By declaring for the draft, what does that clear the player to do? Are they only allowed to talk to teams and scouts or does it clear them to go through private workouts? If they are allowed to work out for teams, what happens in the event of an injury? Do players typically take out insurance policies if they test the waters?
 

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Blum has apparently tweeted that if he gets a combine invite that he’ll likely stay in the draft. And he thinks the combine invite will come. The actual tweet is less direct than this, but it seems like his usual inside info.

Blum usually seems to have inside info and tends to have the job of softening the blow for fans (he was the one telling everyone that Fred was leaving).

Therefore, I think Wigginton is gone.
Over reaction.
 

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One thing that annoys me about early draft entries and testing the waters is it that it screws over the school and coach.

No one will know for sure if Lindell will be back until June. Possibly late June. That’s too late to get anyone worthwhile signed. Prohms strategy is completely different if Lindell is gone.

It’s good for the players, but it’s terrible for the coaches.
 

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Blum has apparently tweeted that if he gets a combine invite that he’ll likely stay in the draft. And he thinks the combine invite will come. The actual tweet is less direct than this, but it seems like his usual inside info.

Blum usually seems to have inside info and tends to have the job of softening the blow for fans (he was the one telling everyone that Fred was leaving).

Therefore, I think Wigginton is gone.

He might get the combine invite, but what if he goes and finds himself in over his head or he gets advised to go back to ISU? He still has another month post-combine to decide whether to stay in the draft or withdraw, so I don't see how a combine invite would be the determining factor. Now, if he gets invited and tears it up, that's another matter.
 

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It does seem like there is a chance he goes and if he does then good for him and I hope he succeeds. I hope he stays though. He could be great next year.
 

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One thing that annoys me about early draft entries and testing the waters is it that it screws over the school and coach.

No one will know for sure if Lindell will be back until June. Possibly late June. That’s too late to get anyone worthwhile signed. Prohms strategy is completely different if Lindell is gone.

It’s good for the players, but it’s terrible for the coaches.

I would say that's balanced out by the fact that a coach can up and leave whenever they want with no penalty, but if a player decides to transfer they have to sit out and burn a year of eligibility. I'm all for players having even a shred of control. Not only that, but this doesn't really give any team a leg up since any P5 team worth a damn is going through the same process with a couple of their players. It adds to the uncertainty, but if it affects everyone it isn't that big a deal.
 

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Blum has apparently tweeted that if he gets a combine invite that he’ll likely stay in the draft. And he thinks the combine invite will come. The actual tweet is less direct than this, but it seems like his usual inside info.

Blum usually seems to have inside info and tends to have the job of softening the blow for fans (he was the one telling everyone that Fred was leaving).

Therefore, I think Wigginton is gone.
I thought he said if he gets a combine invite, and then shows out at the combine. Not that if he gets a visit he is staying in.

 

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One thing that annoys me about early draft entries and testing the waters is it that it screws over the school and coach.

No one will know for sure if Lindell will be back until June. Possibly late June. That’s too late to get anyone worthwhile signed. Prohms strategy is completely different if Lindell is gone.

It’s good for the players, but it’s terrible for the coaches.

The draft is June 21st. I don't know the official last day players have to announce their intentions but I can't imagine it's late June.
 

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One thing that annoys me about early draft entries and testing the waters is it that it screws over the school and coach.

No one will know for sure if Lindell will be back until June. Possibly late June. That’s too late to get anyone worthwhile signed. Prohms strategy is completely different if Lindell is gone.

It’s good for the players, but it’s terrible for the coaches.
The draft is June 21st. I don't know the official last day players have to announce their intentions but I can't imagine it's late June.
This year, men's basketball student-athletes wishing to retain their eligibility must withdraw from the NBA draft by 11:59 p.m. Tuesday, April 10. This applies only to underclassmen who already have declared for the draft. The NBA's deadline for student-athletes to enter the draft is April 29.
 

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The draft is June 21st. I don't know the official last day players have to announce their intentions but I can't imagine it's late June.

June 11th is the last day for early entrants to withdraw, although I doubt most prospects wait that long. They'll know well before that time where they stand.