The stats say Brock Purdy is probably the best ISU QB of all time. Arguing against results is stupid. Not only are his stats the best, the team has had the best sustained run in forever. So he’s got all the records AND the team consistently won games(in the conference as well). So you tell me, what kind of QB was Brock Purdy? And I know I’ll get “but he had certain weaknesses”. Yeah, who doesn’t? That being said, I hope Dekkers is better because I like winning.
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Total failure of WRs to get meaningful separation last season was a recurring problem.
Sure, Purdy isn't gonna throw a 60 yard pissmissile, but he can throw the 20-30 range just fine. Those opportunities often were not present.
Being the best at Iowa State doesn’t make you a great QB unfortunately. If he was half as good as people are claiming he was, he wouldn’t have been the last pick in the draft. He’d have been just a guy for a lot of schools.
Obviously we appreciate what he did here, but we aren’t going to act like he wasn’t limited and has no room to improve.
I don't think it's a bad thing talking about the very minimal weaknesses Brock had. And to be honest there are only a select few guys in the entirety of CFB who can throw a consistently accurate deep ball. Brock is the best QB we've probably ever had and took us to places we've never been. That's an absolute fact. We're literally arguing a small part of his game that he was just not the best at, and that's okay in my mind.
While true you can be a really good college QB and just not be what NFL teams are looking for. Tim Tebow was arguably one of the best QB's in CFB history and didn't see consistent snaps as a QB in the NFL.
“Just a guy”. Ridiculous. There were NINE total QBs drafted in 2022. NINE. But yeah, just a guy.
Unfortunately it was also one of the worst QB classes in history.
“His pre-draft interviews impressed NFL coaches. "He won a lot of games, a gamer, put up big numbers," an AFC executive said. "But I don't think his talent says he gets drafted. I think that's more, you like the guy, like what he brings to the room." Said an AFC coach: "To me, he was like a lesser Ian Book: a guy that's behind the 8-ball from a measurable standpoint, doesn't have high-end athleticism to make up for it. Just kind of a good college player that's going to have a long, uphill battle in the NFL."
Go back to week 2 last year, Manning calls a perfect play, X beats his man by 5 yards only to have to ball under thrown by 10 yards and intercepted. Go watch highlights of Lazard and Butler out jumping dbs for under thrown balls on a ton of deep balls. Park is the only qb he's had with the ability to push the ball down the field, the offense was much different the dozen or so games he played. His play calling has been boxed in by the skill sets of his qbs.
The offense has more potential with Dekkers, especially if the OL is better. Some QB’s can also just make the OL’s job easier.
Also, Purdy only played with Butler for one season. Not even a full season actually since Purdy didn't play until the Oklahoma State game. He only played 9 games with Butler.
Purdy was great. Wallace was better. Imagine Wallace on ISU over the last four years. Consider coaching and players each had around them. I'll take Wallace. Nothing against Purdy. He'd probably be two. Slightly over Rosenfels.
I think we're going to be a hell of a lot more creative this year in the offense. The last two years have been pretty vanilla overall (get the ball to X, Kolar or hand it to Breece), and while that no doubt worked a lot, we had the mentality of "we're going to do what we're going to do and you're going to have to stop it".
We're just going to have a little bit more opportunities to be creative with Dekker's arm (barring he's highly inaccurate).
We're just going to have a little bit more opportunities to be creative with Dekker's arm (barring he's highly inaccurate).
That would depend on the TEs. We’re going to run the ball and play how we play. The creativity might be in how we use Dekkers in the run game.
Based off what? I hope our line has improved at run blocking. Woody was just talking about how our strengths look to be getting the ball to the receivers in space. See what happens. I'd prefer to just run it down people's throats. That's all Alabama does until forced otherwise.
Alabama has the talent to be one dimensional if they see fit to. If Iowa State refuses to be multi-dimensional they allow teams to lean into ISU's tendencies and they will get beat.
This is one reason why so many teams script the first X plays of a game. When the whole coaching staff has an opportunity to review the plan and put it together in a non-pressure environment they can make sure they have a plan that respects what they want to accomplish and exploits what they have learned of an opponent's defensive tendencies and weaknesses. When calling plays under the gun - especially in the heat of battle under pressures of time and the moment - even experienced play callers from time to time will revert to their comfort zone. The comfort zone are the tendencies that opposing defenses have picked up from watching game film.
Other reasons for scripting the start of a game is the whole offense gets comfortable with what they are going to be running to start the game. They can review it and and even practice it. Comfort means fewer mistakes and more success. Success yields confidence and confidence often results in more success.
