Womens Wrestling and Baseball

[CycloneT]

Im pretty sure they move around cyclone club donations or something that don't have an earmark.

Highly doubtful some of these sports are receiving hundreds of thousands in revenue with no ticket sales otherwise

 

[Cyclone Pfan]

I was personally thinking swimming and diving

Im4cyclones article claims that S&D brings in over $400k of revenue.

Not that I want to see any sport cut, but if three womens options were put on the table (and measured by on-field success), wrestling would be an obvious winner over S&D and softball. The bigger question might be could hockey do better than wrestling? Expense wise, I would also imagine wrestling would have the least expenses of all options.

 

[ISU_Guy]

You may not have to worry about title IX too much longer. I imagine it will soon fall victim to DOGE when they come after the Dept of Ed.

I’m sure there’s some sort of AI algorithm running against all this right now as we speak.

 

[ricochet]

Women’s basketball lost $4.4 mil - by far the biggest drain on the AD finances.
Don’t know how you can justify that amount of red in today’s world.

Unless something changed in the last round of team swapping I think it is a required sport (along with football and Men's basketball) to be a member of the Big 12 conference. It could lose 10x that amount of money and still justify its existence.

 

[peatyscotch]

Why is this something for the legislature?

And I agree about the unfounded mandate. Is he going to have the state pay for it? If not, then get out of here.

100%. What business is this of the legislature? Deal with the issues that are important to the people of the state; let UNI and ISU make these kind of decisions.

 

[Land Shark]

Here is a picture of what an ISU baseball team would like. The HC paid $36k. The pitching and hitting coaches paid $24k each. The trainer would also be a certified mechanic so when the 40 year old Blue Bird school bus breaks down the school doesn't have to have it towed. There will be a supply of green and white lawn chairs for the players to use while the trainer/mechanic fixes the bus. On away trips, the team will stay at Motel 6 or if they can find a state park, they will camp out. Meal money will be scarce so having a player know how to cook road kill will be required.

What are you all thoughts on this? I know it sounds good to have baseball back. However, nobody ever went to the games and it just cost a lot of money. Not sure if anyone would show up to womens wrestling either. I would rather we stay pat on the sports we have and spend the money that way.

New bill would require Iowa State, UNI to revive baseball programs

Iowa lawmakers are considering a bill that would require Iowa State and Northern Iowa to bring back baseball programs.

www.kcci.com

Neither sport is sustainable at ISU, and we should focus on what we have. We need to keep growing our resources for our two revenue generators. Hard pass

 

[VeloClone]

Don't get me wrong, I am sad that two sport All-American Gary Thompson (Basketball, Baseball) will die not seeing baseball resurrected at Iowa State. However, I understand that baseball will never be back especially as long as it continues to be a spring rather than summer sport. Frankly, it shouldn't when an AD that already operates with one hand tied behind its back also would have to play on a ridiculously tilted playing field due to weather.

 

[BCClone]

Don't get me wrong, I am sad that two sport All-American Gary Thompson (Basketball, Baseball) will die not seeing baseball resurrected at Iowa State. However, I understand that baseball will never be back especially as long as it continues to be a spring rather than summer sport. Frankly, it shouldn't when an AD that already operates with one hand tied behind its back also would have to play on a ridiculously tilted playing field due to weather.

I like how heller says he’d love if ISU andUNI got baseball and that would help his scheduling. I’m sure it had nothing to do with 4 easy wins since both schools would put minimal money into it.

 

[isufbcurt]

Dumb

 

[AltoonaFish]

If we could build a domed facility that could be used for more than baseball, maybe. But the there’s really no point in having a spring baseball team in Iowa. Hell, softball games are free and I don’t go because it’s Iowa and even in April/ may it could be 45 with 73mph winds.

 

[andybernard]

With a young daughter in wrestling, I would love to see ISU get a women's wrestling program. I'm tired of seeing hawkeye posters and whatnot all over the wrestling room, and her club having outings to go to Iowa City to watch their women.

Also, my sons are obsessed with baseball, so yeah...I'm all for that, too.

Also also, I know nothing about finances, I just assume everyone making decisions knows exactly what they're doing. Ignorance is bliss... so I will add nothing of importance to this conversation.

 

[AlCyJim]

Just for reference, softball lost about $1.5M in 2023 ($357k in revenue, $1.9M in expenses). Men’s wrestling lost almost $2.2M ($330k in revenue, $2.5M in expenses). I can’t believe baseball and women’s wrestling would do any better. But sure, let’s take on another couple of financial losers to the tune of $4M/yr. Why not?

A stupid bill from an unserious legislator.

he is an a$$. complaining about all the parents contacting him about pride flags and stuff like that in classrooms, lesson plans about history and what is being taught. so he wants it to stop. again no solid numbers just people contacting him and he is tired of it. my memory is shot about where I saw it

 

[BCClone]

he is an a$$. complaining about all the parents contacting him about pride flags and stuff like that in classrooms, lesson plans about history and what is being taught. so he wants it to stop. again no solid numbers just people contacting him and he is tired of it. my memory is shot about where I saw it

The one that wants baseball or the one who wants women’s wrestling?

 

[AlCyJim]

The one that wants baseball or the one who wants women’s wrestling?

baseball cause he played college baseball in NAIA and I think he coaches high school baseball.

 

[Tornado man]

Unless something changed in the last round of team swapping I think it is a required sport (along with football and Men's basketball) to be a member of the Big 12 conference. It could lose 10x that amount of money and still justify its existence.

No one’s saying drop women’s basketball, but look at cutting expenses.
Hard to reconcile reducing some other Olympic sports to “club status” when women’s bb and volleyball combined lose over $6.5 mil a year! And I have season tix to both.

 

[isucy86]

You may not have to worry about title IX too much longer. I imagine it will soon fall victim to DOGE when they come after the Dept of Ed.

I don't see Title IX going anywhere since its elimination would have to withstand Supreme Court review. It's a conservative court, but I don't see a majority tossing aside Title IX.

If Title IX becomes a financial stumbling block to recent court rulings like House, I would expect for colleges to spin sport programs outside the university legal structure.

 

[BCClone]

I guess putting the title 9 on it is unfair, it would help ISU. having less sports means we would only need about 70% of the 20 to be equal to the big 10.

 

[BCClone]

I don't see Title IX going anywhere since its elimination would have to withstand Supreme Court review. It's a conservative court, but I don't see a majority tossing aside Title IX.

If Title IX becomes a financial stumbling block to recent court rulings like House, I would expect for colleges to spin sport programs outside the university legal structure.

I would like a proponent of title 9 hooked to NIL explain how that’s fair.

 

[2speedy1]

One of the biggest problems with College Baseball and really softball too, is the season. Starting the season in the dead of winter in the northern states kills it.

There really is no reason that the season starts 2+/- months ahead of MLB and every other normal Baseball season. The northern teams would have much better opportunity to compete if they would start the season in April rather than February. Baseball is a summer sport, and the season should reflect that.

It is not like there are no student athletes on campus all summer, as some say because they need to have the season during the spring semester, and the current season still goes on currently after the spring semester ends as it is now.

I get the deep south saying its too hot to play in the middle of summer, but I still say its a lot easier to play when its 100 degrees out than when its 10 below and a foot of snow. (baseball is also not a high exertion sport like some are) And with that maybe some of those far south schools will have to schedule some summer games in the north more, as the North teams have to schedule in the south for most of the current season.

 

[dafarmer]

Maybe legislature would limit money for private schools and give that money to the universities for baseball and women’s wrestling. Not going to happen!