Zach Smith is off the rails tonight...

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I think one could argue that if Herman as an assistant coach was sleeping with student assistants that there may be some “boss sleeping with employee” angle that’s a little worse than just a random hook-up outside of a marriage. Especially if the student assistants were to claim he initiated things.
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I think they've managed to very publicly prove that they are each pieces of ****. Congrats fellas.

Although I will said that what Smith did is sickening and illegal. What Herman did (especially if the rumors about the co-eds and PP are true) is certainly bad, but I guess is a little more personal. It sounds like his wife knew about this stuff and apparently doesn't care to the point of divorcing him. So I guess if that's the way their marriage works...? I don't know. Just a very bizarre deal all around.
Though possible, it’s pretty unlikely Tom’s wife just didn’t care much. Also pretty unlikely she knew the extent. And while those are to some extent personal matters, it doesn’t work so neatly that this just doesn’t reflect poorly on the program. Bottom line is that this is going to dog him for awhile and will be a distraction.
 
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The one tweet with the texts seems to indicate there are pictures. If those get loose this will go to another level.

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Overarching comment here --

There are a lot of institutions in our society where some really scummy, if not quite illegal, behavior on the part of (mostly) men has been allowed to go on for far too long. While the process of excising it is being a difficult one, I applaud that we are (slowly) taking the steps as a society to wring this kind of trash behavior out of the system.

I have seen it myself. I worked with a guy at my first job who was, at least according to himself, a "crack salesman" (mostly because he sucked up to the bosses to the point where he could steal major sales leads he saw fit, and when a conspiracy formed against him from the rest of the staff to keep information from him and no longer support him, his numbers went to zero). While he was still riding high, however, this high-functionally alcoholic was after every intern (often many at the same time) he ever met. The powers-that-be looked the other way for this kind of hostile, toxic behavior because he was too important to "the bottom line."

He moved on (after he saw that he had burnt every possible bridge) soon enough to pull the same charade somewhere else. Good riddance.

This includes Hollywood (with the Weinstein types), the major media outlets (Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, etc.), business, politics, academia, professional sports, and where the latter two categories intersect with scumbags like Smith and Herman finally coming to light.

I mentioned this in another thread but, heck, I know of two departments at Iowa State (and not the Athletic Department, though these Herman stories would unfortunately fall under that umbrella) where scummy behavior like this went down. With the first one, which was 10-15 years ago, nothing happen to the guy. With the second one, which was relatively recent, the guy was basically immediately fired. That is a step in the right direction.

Accusations of chasing or impregnating female students is pretty common. I remember the same accusation (or something of the same genre) leveled against, and this is a partial list, Bo Pelini, Gary Pinkel, and Major Applewhite, to bring up a few that popped into mind, but as we know from the Larry Eustachy experience, sometimes this stuff is true.

All the better these dirtbags are getting thrown out of the sport.

All the more kudos to Jamie Pollard for hiring men like Campbell and Prohm. I would lose some faith in humanity if anything damaged anything about their images.
 
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From what I can remember, my friend told me that Rhoads told Herman to start looking around for a new job once Rhoads found out.

Reminds me of Ash's departure after the '09 season. Not sure if he got a talkin'-to from Rhoads before bailing, but his extra-marital conquest (there was only one woman involved...though rather long term) was the talk of the Jacobson (and later, Tempe).
 
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Steve

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Maybe Bo Pelini did it too, but pretty sure it was his brother that was encouraged to leave Nebraska. I thought he knocked up a former Miss Nebraska.
You know that you've gone too far when your own brother has to fire you. Carl's supposed love child was with a former Mrs Nebraska who was married to a big time program booster. It was the beginning of the end for Bo. Having his brother around helped keep his behavior somewhat in check. After he had left, the out of control behavior escalated.
 

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You know that you've gone too far when your own brother has to fire you. Carl's supposed love child was with a former Mrs Nebraska who was married to a big time program booster. It was the beginning of the end for Bo. Having his brother around helped keep his behavior somewhat in check. After he had left, the out of control behavior escalated.

 

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So apparently D1 College Football Assistant is quite the seedy profession. Who knew?
 

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