I looked up Jennifer Lopez on Facebook. I think that meanswe're married.
Something something something Wisconsin something something something Hawkeyes?
Zeb Noland signs with ISU
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Something something something Wisconsin something something something Hawkeyes?
I looked up Jennifer Lopez on Facebook. I think that means
She's a freshman in my sons HS. Kinda young for you.
Depends. What state?
And honestly it takes all my energy to not please a 47 year old woman.
In the quotes I've read from him, he's completely fine and expecting to RS this year. HS Completion rate, we are picking fly poo out of pepper at this point. He is going to be in the program for at least one year learning and, hopefully, won't be a starter in our program until Lanning graduates. And really I say Lanning because he's our most experienced QB and I think right now he's our guy whom we need to succeed for the team to succeed. Maybe in 2016 that's a JUCO yet to be named, doesn't matter.
The point is that worrying about this one stat line seems ridiculous, even more than how many stars the kid has on a recruiting site. What our QB position has sorely missed in the past few seasons has been a gunslinger attitude; someone who makes the right decisions with the ball and makes the throws when needed. I think the kid has the talent needed, but more importantly sounds like he has what is needed above the shoulders to be a P5 quarterback.
Whether any of that comes to fruition has a lot to do with what happens over the next 1-2 years. It's great, however that he is effectively a mid-year transfer and will have an extra session of spring ball compared to the average HS recruit. Glad to have Zeb aboard!
The point is that worrying about this one stat line seems ridiculous, even more than how many stars the kid has on a recruiting site. What our QB position has sorely missed in the past few seasons has been a gunslinger attitude; someone who makes the right decisions with the ball and makes the throws when needed. I think the kid has the talent needed, but more importantly sounds like he has what is needed above the shoulders to be a P5 quarterback.
Whether any of that comes to fruition has a lot to do with what happens over the next 1-2 years. It's great, however that he is effectively a mid-year transfer and will have an extra session of spring ball compared to the average HS recruit. Glad to have Zeb aboard!
Re: Zeb Noland commits
Sure, sure... And he'll magically only be a 1 star athlete after a month.
Sure, sure... And he'll magically only be a 1 star athlete after a month.
I looked up Jennifer Lopez on Facebook. I think that means
That was just some kid from South Park, CO, he drew a mouth on his and and talked w/ a bad accent... :biggrin:
So, what kind of offense are we running next year? How does Noland move?
Lanning is our only "dual threat". These other guys are "pro-style" and don't move as well. College calls for a QB with wheels. Hell, even the Iowa QBs are labeled pro-style, but they call all move well.
247 Sports:
Cyclones QBs in 2016
Lanning (DT #72)
Starcevich (Pro - NR)
Delira (Pro #69)
Noland (Pro #56)
Iowa QBs 2016
Beathard (Pro #38)
Wiegers (Pro #31)
Boyle (DT #12)
Cook (Ath #110)
Stanley (Pro #38)
Just read that even with ISU getting all these former Toledo commits that we're still ranked last in recruiting among the Big 12. Does Zeb raise us a notch?
demoncore1031
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Zeb's completion % was pretty poor in HS, but he seems to have good arm strength and pocket presence so I think we redshirt him and the coaches will develop him into a solid QB. I could see him starting as a redshirt sophomore.
The bottom 5:
Texas #46
OSU #51
ISU #74
KSU #75
KU #83
Zeb Noland is predicted as our best recruit of the class, so far.
EDIT: *signed recruit
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Do yourself a favor before you post about this again and watch Zeb's senior season highlight video on Hudl.
Personally, I view the "Pro" vs. "Dual" distinction slightly differently. The "Pro" guys are better at throwing the ball, slightly less favorable in *running* the ball. "Dual" guys have more speed as in 40-time and can run better, but sometimes are less gifted in throwing the ball.
My counter to your question is: what would you rather have your QB's best traits be, running or throwing?
A 'pocket passer' can have good mobility and can occasionally be effective in a scramble game, without being a 'running' QB. Personally, I've hoped ISU would recruit more "Pro" QB recruits who have decent mobility rather than the true "Dual threat" recruits.
To expand on this: Aaron Rodgers is a good example of a 'pocket passer' that is mobile and can be effective in the scramble game but isn't considered a 'running' QB.
Thanks for the insight genius. I watched Noland's video and it was the reason for my question. I also looked at his stats (Max Preps): 73 of 169 (46% completion), 1629 yards, 17 TDs, 4 Int. Loves to throw it deep (20 yds/completion), accuracy is a question. There is no mention of his rushing stats and minimal video of him moving in the pocket or running. Hence my question: Does have wheels? What kind of offense do we see CMC installing.
I don't mean to go off on a rant here, but...Yes, we all want a Pro-Style passer that can move. Ideally, we all want Aaron Rogers. Ok, back to reality, we are graduating half our OL and starting TE. We will have holes in the OL, accordingly there is a need for our QBs to have mobility to escape harms way. Now, back to Noland, I realize it is ideal that he redshirts, gets coached up, etc. Truth is, with Richardson graduating and Rohach transferring, there is a chance Noland is the back-up and may have to play immediately should injuries occur or if Lanning gets the yips, etc. So, back to my simple question - can Noland move?
Yes, I undertand the distinction between DTs and Pro-Style. Again, we all want Aaron Rogers - strong arm, accuracy, quick release, pocket presence, ahtletic, protects the football, poised, intelligent, clutch, etc. But, simple dual threat-ish QBs have been killing us the last several years, guys that didn't have rocket arms, but they had decent arms, moxy and moved well enough to move the chains throwing and running.
This year...QB's with legs were key in making us 3-9 instead of 8-4.
CJ Beathard - 77 yards and a few key first downs
Boykin - 74 yards and a few key first downs/TDs
Russell - 64 yards made a difference until he was knocked out of the season
Huebner - 90 yards made a huge difference
Howard - 73 yards were key to 30-6 victory
in 2014 it was Wentz, Boykin, Knight, Waters, Petty...they killed us in the air and their mobility gave us head aches.
We aren't suppose to talk Hawkeyes on here, but Beathard's legs and moxy are the difference in their 7-5 vs 12-0 year.
Summary: We need mobile QBs (with all other wonderful QB attributes). I hope Noland is mobile.
[video]https://youtu.be/wMxJeNEfqDs?t=5m56s[/video]
Is he mobile with the ball? I don't know. But he can move his feet.
Mobile qbs at the college level are nearly essential to an offense. In college, qbs just aren't as accurate and there are many more drops by receivers. Having Beathard for Iowa this year helped them immensely. I can think of more than a dozen times that he picked up a key third down with his legs when no one was open to extend a would-be scoring drive.
I heard from a friend down in Georgia that the kid is very good. He started as a freshman at one HS then moved when his dad got a job at his current school. His receivers were a big reason for his completion percentage from what he says. A lot of drops throughout the season.
Hoping our new great OL coach can take care of that problem. He took a Toledo team that lost every starter on the line last year and made them a great line this year. They ranked 26th in the country in rushing and only allowed 2 sacks. I know, I know...Toledo isn't ISU, the MAC isn't the Big 12...might want to just relax a little and see what happens, you might be surprised...or you might get what you're used to from ISU. Either way, it will be interesting to watch.
