Coach Messingham, I've seen both pluses and minuses ...
- Thread starter surly
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I struggle with temptation...
Mess will probably be okay as an OC in that type of offense. He said/did some stupid things at ISU and that's going to follow him. Part of his down fall was Paul Rhoads. He micromanaged the offense when he should have stayed completely out of the way. Mess isn't going to wow you. The plus side is that you'll never have to worry about another school coming in and taking him away.
If Mess could hire Marty Fine that would be some of the greatest horse power to ever coach.
To be fair to Messingham, Tom Herman and Mark Mangino also both failed as OC under Paul Rhoads. His time at ISU is probably not a representative sample.
Really?
Campbell played at Mount Union and they won 3 national championships while he was there in 2000, 2001 and 2002. Campbell also won national championships as OC at Mount Union in 2005 and 2006.
I didn't like Mess as a playcaller. We also didn't have near as much talent when he was here as we do now.
I'm surprised he was able to land another OC job at a P5 school.
I'm surprised he was able to land another OC job at a P5 school.
You definitely have to consider the possibility that the system was failing when Herman couldn't get anything going either
Can't give Herman a pass as he was resigned to thinking you couldn't bring the talent needed to win to Ames. CMC has obviously shown otherwise. Even without a change in airports.
The thing I remember with Mess was the inconsistency. There were weeks we would march up and down the field, and there were weeks we couldn't string together positive plays. That and the constant QB carousel.
Oh, I had forgotten about this. Yeah, that was a bad quote.
One thing I can say @surly, is that Mess being your OC strikes fear into the heart of absolutely no Iowa State fan. If I make speak for everybody.
CycloneErik
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You should no make speak no more.
Also,
Jimmy Johnson won a National Championship as a player at Arkansas and later won a Championship as head coach at Miami.
Johnny Majors won a national championship as an assistant at Arkansas and as head coach at Pitt.
I believe I said "previous" coaching staff. We're RIFE with championships with our current regime.
