Not impressed with this class at all.
We really need to improve our instate recruiting, and I get the feeling that Coach Campbell is figuring out what those that came before him knew.
The best talent in the state tends to be in and around IC/CR or Davenport, and Iowa can come into the Central and Western parts of the state and grab most of the better players.
Looking at Iowa's 2021 list, they got a 4 star from Ida Grove, a 3 star from Urbandale, and 3 star from Story City. Its a hell of a lot closer to Ames than IC from all of those place, but the kids still decided to sign with the Squawks. That is not counting a 4 star from CR and a 3 star Bettendorf.
ISU really needs to start winning the Cy-Hawk game with Iowa and we need to get to at least the Big X12 championship game to get these kids really interested in ISU, in the future.
Or its not going to change, unless Iowa completely goes in the tank.
How many spots do we still have open? Feels like we're not done quite yet either. Personally I'm not over the moon but I trust CMC with this since he's been proving it constantly that he knows what hes looking forI respectfully, yet completely disagree.
We got one of our top QBs, one of our top RBs, one of our top DTs, and A LOT of guys that will rise in rankings during the season.
watch the tape, not the stars.
I see your point.Speaking of Hawkeye fans...
Horse hockey. The last thing we need to do is get into a McCarney-esque frenzy of signing Iowa kids just to sign more Iowa kids than the TOE.We really need to improve our instate recruiting, and I get the feeling that Coach Campbell is figuring out what those that came before him knew.
Kinda defeats your point when we didn’t want a single one of those kids.Looking at Iowa's 2021 list, they got a 4 star from Ida Grove, a 3 star from Urbandale, and 3 star from Story City. Its a hell of a lot closer to Ames than IC from all of those place, but the kids still decided to sign with the Squawks.
Piss off, my wife and I have had season tickets for over 10 years for ISU football, How about you?Speaking of Hawkeye fans...
We really need to improve our instate recruiting, and I get the feeling that Coach Campbell is figuring out what those that came before him knew....
I see your point.
Horse hockey. The last thing we need to do is get into a McCarney-esque frenzy of signing Iowa kids just to sign more Iowa kids than the TOE.
Kinda defeats your point when we didn’t want a single one of those kids.
Then there’s the fact that there is a four star in Iowa’s back yard who is also a Hawk legacy—and we’re a finalist, and they aren’t.
Two of these kids have good offer lists, and Coach Campbell is just establishing a framework to build around. The more “popular” guys will start rolling in later.
Piss off, my wife and I have had season tickets for over 10 years for ISU football, How about you?
Not really keen on this take. We fill our needs well under Campbell based on who's available in-state. The only misses I recall in the last 4 years would be Duggan and Gunnerson.
Duggan to TCU made sense based on personal connections and the developments in our QB room at the time. And Gunnerson at the end of the day at least chose to play against the ToE, and jury is still out what he'll translate to at the next level.
All in all, when a talent in-state is available and needed, Campbell and his staff seem to identify it just fine.
I'm not talking identify, but actually signing them to play for ISU. We all want the to see ISU improve in football, we all believe in Coach Campbell, but to see us improve, we need to start getting the majority of the best players to sign and play for ISU.
Look at any state that has two or more P5 programs, which on gets the instate talent or most of it and which one comes in 2nd? Then how are those programs doing compared to each other?
Not gonna happen. Iowa is THE state university. Until we can actually have meaningful seasons, with meaningful expectations this will not change.I'm not talking identify, but actually signing them to play for ISU. We all want the to see ISU improve in football, we all believe in Coach Campbell, but to see us improve, we need to start getting the majority of the best players to sign and play for ISU.
Look at any state that has two or more P5 programs, which on gets the instate talent or most of it and which one comes in 2nd? Then how are those programs doing compared to each other?
Well this is historically the most important thing I look at in commits, Campbell has earned the benefit of the doubt and don’t even think twice about it.The other offers on most of our commits leave a bit to be desired IMO.
Apologies, my previous usage of the word "identify" was meant to imply both targeting the recruit and gaining the commitment.
I talk to members of the recruiting staff occasionally. They told me they are not going to go out of their way to land an instate prospect over another prospect they think is more talented. They will always take the kid that is more talented and they will ALWAYS recruit the hardest for the kids they believe are the most interested.We really need to improve our instate recruiting, and I get the feeling that Coach Campbell is figuring out what those that came before him knew.
The best talent in the state tends to be in and around IC/CR or Davenport, and Iowa can come into the Central and Western parts of the state and grab most of the better players.
Looking at Iowa's 2021 list, they got a 4 star from Ida Grove, a 3 star from Urbandale, and 3 star from Story City. Its a hell of a lot closer to Ames than IC from all of those place, but the kids still decided to sign with the Squawks. That is not counting a 4 star from CR and a 3 star Bettendorf.
ISU really needs to start winning the Cy-Hawk game with Iowa and we need to get to at least the Big X12 championship game to get these kids really interested in ISU, in the future.
Or its not going to change, unless Iowa completely goes in the tank.
I respectfully, yet completely disagree.
We got one of our top QBs, one of our top RBs, one of our top DTs, and A LOT of guys that will rise in rankings during the season.
watch the tape, not the stars.
He's no Bowen bornI talk to members of the recruiting staff occasionally. They told me they are not going to go out of their way to land an instate prospect over another prospect they think is more talented. They will always take the kid that is more talented and they will ALWAYS recruit the hardest for the kids they believe are the most interested.
It is too hard to walk into the living room of a life long hawkeye and beg him to come to Iowa State. That is what is happening A LOT in this class. Most of those guys (Connor Colby, Griffin Liddle, Jaden Harrell) grew up Hawkeye fans. Frankly, I'm surprised that Brody Brecht hasn't committed to the hawks yet. That must mean we have a real chance. Anyway...
The games are won on the field; the games are won by who gets more points. You do not get more points for in-state guys. The staff wants the best 25 guys they can get, regardless of where they are from. The "in-state guys" argument is a BS one from Twitter.
Also, their recruiting ties are not in Iowa. Their ties are in Ohio (duh), Kansas City, Arizona, the big states (Cali, Texas, Florida), and they are building a pipeline in Chicago and Michigan.
Deon is a stud and it shouldn't be knock on him that he is from florida. (if anything, that's a plus).
If Campbell were coming off an 11 win season, it might be.At a risk of being called a hawk fan... I wish our class was more like this so far
https://247sports.com/college/minnesota/Season/2021-Football/Commits/
I talk to members of the recruiting staff occasionally. They told me they are not going to go out of their way to land an instate prospect over another prospect they think is more talented. They will always take the kid that is more talented and they will ALWAYS recruit the hardest for the kids they believe are the most interested.
It is too hard to walk into the living room of a life long hawkeye and beg him to come to Iowa State. That is what is happening A LOT in this class. Most of those guys (Connor Colby, Griffin Liddle, Jaden Harrell) grew up Hawkeye fans. Frankly, I'm surprised that Brody Brecht hasn't committed to the hawks yet. That must mean we have a real chance. Anyway...
The games are won on the field; the games are won by who gets more points. You do not get more points for in-state guys. The staff wants the best 25 guys they can get, regardless of where they are from. The "in-state guys" argument is a BS one from Twitter.
Also, their recruiting ties are not in Iowa. Their ties are in Ohio (duh), Kansas City, Arizona, the big states (Cali, Texas, Florida), and they are building a pipeline in Chicago and Michigan.
Deon is a stud and it shouldn't be knock on him that he is from florida. (if anything, that's a plus).