And teams would rarely even pitch to him. I don’t watch a lot of baseball but did when he was in his final seasons. Every swing of the bat seemed like it was a home run or a foul home run. He’d finish a game 1 for 1 with a home run and 4 walksIf you include steroid users it's Barry Bonds and its not even ******* close. From about 2000 to 2006 nobody could ever duplicate that again. Had a slugging % of at or above .800 for 4 straight years. That isn't even right. I can't even put up numbers like that in a video game. 7 MVP's too and finished second in the voting twice.
Surprised it took so long for the "Hit King" to brought into the conversation.Pete Rose was not too shabby either.
No doubt Cobb was one of the best, but you have to question numbers from a time when guys pitched 9 innings every day.
Same thing with Cy Young. Great numbers, but I don't know if you can really take them seriously.
If it was livelier, it would have been livelier for all playing in the Era. Cobb stood out in his Era.True, but I also question stats when the baseball is livelier than when Ty Cobb played. Difficult to compare eras but the oldtimers do need to be taken seriously.
Come on, man. Thomas had 9 seasons over .300 and Gwynn had 19. Gwynn had seasons of .351, .370, .368, .394, .353, .358 and .372.
These are serious averages for Major League hitters, like next level numbers.
Batting average tells the real tale of who the hitters are. I love the Big Hurt, but Tony Gwynn he is not.
And also used balls that had been scratched, scuffed, and slightly damaged. Those hitters saw a lot of unintentional junk pitches due to balls not being traded out every 4-5 pitches.No doubt Cobb was one of the best, but you have to question numbers from a time when guys pitched 9 innings every day.
Same thing with Cy Young. Great numbers, but I don't know if you can really take them seriously.
Without a doubt injuries kept him from owning the record books, but when you look at what Griffey did and then the seasons missed, he was without a doubt the best we have ever seen.
In most sports its hard to compare players from totally different eras. I tend to be one that thinks people like Ruth and Cobb would never produce the stats they did if they played in the modern game. How many times did either face 3 or 4 relievers all throwing the baseball upper 90's. Players like Ruth would never be able to swing as heavy as a bat as he used in the modern game.
Look at Nile Kinnick, he would not make the team today at 5"8' and 167 pounds, but he won the Heisman in the 30's. Just to totally different game was being played back then.
True, but I also question stats when the baseball is livelier than when Ty Cobb played. Difficult to compare eras but the oldtimers do need to be taken seriously.
Rose shouldn’t be in the conversation. He gambled on games, allowed mobsters in the club house.
You act like his career .301 batting average, for a power guy mind you, is terrible or something. Had a higher OBP, SLG, OPS and OPS+. These are things to sneeze at. They also a make a great hitter. I'm not saying saying Frank Thomas is the best hitter of all time, but he isn't some scrub, either.
I believe Frank is a true first ballot Hall of Famer without a doubt.
Best hitter and power hitter are two completely different things to me. Different eras, stats and opinions are what make conversations like this fun.
Rose shouldn’t be in the conversation. He gambled on games, allowed mobsters in the club house.
Could you imagine the great hitters like Griffey, Bonds, Trout, Gwynn, etc. going back and playing when Ruth and Williams played? They would hit like .500!!
I totally get that, but someone who hits over .300 for a 20 year career, even when his last 7 years he was under .300, sometimes significantly, that is impressive. He had seasons hitting .353, .349, and .347 while also hitting 38, 40, and 35 HR's. I'd say that is a pretty good hitter regardless of power.