I mean Kansas State was arguably in a worse position before Snyder and they managed to build a decent program, and Kansas had success with Mangino. I think it’s possible to do better than that.
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Thanks for the Thread and the invite. I just put your link into my 'saved'. Good luck to the 'new guys' and the Big 12. We can use a positive shot in the arm.
I'm with you. And the fewer people the better. Something about just lying on the beach and taking an occasional stroll up and down. Nothing like it.
Well fellas, it looks like the madness isn’t over…
B12 apparently targeting Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington.
I find realignment talk this summer a lot more fun than last summer.
My colonoscopy was a lot more "fun" than realignment talks last summer.
Im sure they will figure it out pretty quickly. Some years it won't be fair and some it will. Sometimes we will skate with a Hawkeye type schedule where we avoid all the real good teams (Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State) then other years we will have a real hard schedule but get to watch some big teams.
The best way to do anything bigger than 10 is to have one protected (rivalry) game for each team then rotate the rest of the teams so you don't play anyone more often than anyone else. Otherwise if you try to split the conference in half or pods you end up with continually unbalanced schedules like what happened in the old Big 12 North & South and the current Big 10 & SEC.
KidSilverhair
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Yeah, there’s really not a good way to do it. The B1G couldn’t accomplish anything close to a balanced schedule, and they only had 14.
When you’re trying to protect rivalries and at the same time balance the schedule/get all the conference teams to all the schools eventually, it’s really hard, if not impossible. This idea of one rivalry game per school and then just rotating through the rest of the conference isn’t terrible, as far as meeting the criteria - but schools almost always have more than one opponent they’d like to play every year, and that doesn’t fit this model.
The other notion - which doesn’t help with the “play a variety of teams in your conference” - is to just accept the reality that 16/18/20+ conferences aren’t “conferences” at all, but (at least) two separate conferences with an agreement on a common champion. Just split up your divisions into nine or ten schools, then your conference schedule is simply playing the rest of your division. No, it’s not balanced, but what else are you going to do? Every schedule that’s not a true round-robin is unbalanced to some degree - pods don’t help that, rotating through the whole conference doesn’t help that. Just agree that your two division winners play for the championship, and that’s that. (Or have a four-team playoff if you’re really broken up about a team that couldn’t even win its own division possibly getting left out of the CFP … /stares at SEC/ …)
Maybe mix up your divisions every couple of years, so you can get schools to see everybody else over time. Again, though, that plan would affect your set “rivalries“ - you just gotta decide what’s most important.
3 groups of 6 / 6-year rotation
5 games from A (your group)
2 games from B
2 games from C
I’d like 20. Two 10 team divisions. Round Robin your side then 3 from the other side based on random draw out of a hat. Tell me that wouldn’t be a sick 8 hour special on Big 12 Now on ESPN plus.
You had me until ESPN plus. We need to distance ourselves from ESPN.
Maybe we can get Fox completely on board. If not then maybe CBS or NBC.
I personally think Yormark knocked it out of the park with his interview, he was very enthusiastic and aggressive, it’s certainly a change from what is UCF fans are used to. What do you guys think?
Brand wise, we’re going to be the bottom feeder, at least on paper. But we took Duke to the wire in the tourney in 2018 and have been a decent team as of late. We also signed a top 100 player this class. However I think it’ll take us some time to adjust, and we’ll be a punching bag for a bit.
