Ah gotcha, no problem man. **** happens online. You're usually pretty chill so I was very confused when I saw that at first
Iowa/Swarm Split?
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People don't really use the collectives to endorse their businesses using individual athletes. My understanding has been that those are separate, and more straightforward NIL events.
The collectives are for regular fans to contribute to a general fund that can distribute some money to athletes for staying involved in their community. And set up that way, Title IX issues can come into play in my mind.
Maybe Blum can provide more insight on how that works, but I get the sense that it really is the Wild West when it comes to that stuff..
I read it that way but then wasn't sure when everyone jumped you.
I read it the way that you meant, but, in fairness, “Go play with your kids,” is pretty sound advice, regardless…
…says the guy posting on 12/24.
To say there are any rules governing the pay for play that has developed is a stretch on any front.
Lawyers are going to feast on lawsuits over the next few years untill the NCAA gets taken out of the revenue sports mix and some kind of commission is formed that might have a chance at governing the elite franchises. Rich will get richer no matter what.
Lawyers are going to feast on lawsuits over the next few years untill the NCAA gets taken out of the revenue sports mix and some kind of commission is formed that might have a chance at governing the elite franchises. Rich will get richer no matter what.
You have ADs working with donors, and they are very open about their realignment of donor dollars. Because they have so much media dollars they are steering donors that were giving to the AD (subject to title IX) to shift some of those dollars to collectives (which are not at this point).
This was very predictable. Who knows what would happen in a case, but if ADs are directing donors to collectives instead of donating to the ADs, then there are grounds that the AD is circumventing title IX through a collective. I could see at least some civil suits.
Why would someone like that post something like this in a public place? Put it in a text to a few buddies. Not in a place where anyone can see it and run with it as they want. This would be incredibly damaging to his own interests. Thus, I'm doubting its authenticity.
Maybe that wasn't a good example. Try this - If I want to start a Go Fund Me to raise a bunch of money to give to ISU FB players and the Tennis team gets mad and wants to sue me they'd have no basis.
The Collective is a stand alone organization and it's leaders can determine how they want to distribute the funds they collect.
That’s correct. If Pollard tells other donors looking to give to the athletic department to instead give to the collective, and the collective money all goes to FB and MBB, I could the basis for a suit against the athletic dept.
Imagine if the NFL asked season ticket holders to fork over even more money to pay their players' salary. This whole thing is stupid.
If an AD put anything like that in writing they deserve to be fired on the spot.
How is a Collective giving money to certain athletes different than the Gridiron Club giving money to football?
Here are two additional likely reasons why Iowa did not cooperate in passing along donor info
*If they pass the requested info along to one outside organization (the collective); then they would have to provide it to all others who inquire. *The donors have an expectation of their contact info having a level of privacy.
Equal share? Women sports and men's tennis lose money. It wouldn't be fair to give women athletes or olympic athletes an equal amount of money.
True. But there probably university rules that come into play. Should a university share donor contact and donor level information with a outside organization? I hope ISU isn't out there selling my information to 3rd parties.
Also, what type of oversight is there over NIL Collectives? Is their financial information available to Universities, donors to the NIL and general public. Similar to what Charity Watch does.
The University of Iowa's legal folks might be driving actions by the Athletic Dept. What would prevent Mr. Swarm from taking money from donors and spending donated money on a lavish lifestyle for himself and/or employees of the Collective?
