I agree, one forces us to take a low level football team and then find another to go along with them.I don't want SDSU or Gonzaga in the conference. But one versus the other is easy
I agree, one forces us to take a low level football team and then find another to go along with them.I don't want SDSU or Gonzaga in the conference. But one versus the other is easy
If true, ISU was the only school who had it right.This isn't Gonzaga related but I saw some BYU fan on twitter state that ISU was the "only school that was against BYU joining the Big 12"
Which I don't think is true at all.... but I'm curious if anyone else saw/heard anything about that.
Gonzaga unlike every power 5 school has the luxury of basketball mailing it in the months of January and February. They only get tested a few times a year in conference play.I've been a Gonzaga defender for a long time with respect to their regular season performance and perceived lack of postseason success (emphasis on "perceived," they've really performed about as well relative to their seeds as you'd expect). But I do wonder if they'll have any similar level of success moving forward. Given Arizona's immediate success and Gonzaga falling a bit, I wonder if Tommy Lloyd was the genius behind the operation just as much or more than Mark Few was. I'm also curious how NIL affects them. I know some non-football schools like Creighton are able to be big players in the NIL game, but I don't know if Gonzaga has the donor base required to compete at that level.
As far as Gonzaga joining the Big 12, I do like the idea of even further elevating the Big 12 as the premier basketball conference. But if you do it, I agree with others that there should be a plan to pursue other similar schools that are non-football but can elevate basketball even more.
Gonzaga unlike every power 5 school has the luxury of basketball mailing it in the months of January and February. They only get tested a few times a year in conference play.
They get solid players but I can’t imagine they’d have as much success playing K-State on the road then playing Kansas the same week.
I think the luster of Gonzaga goes away a decent amount if they go to the Big 12. They're used to wowing people with their 29-2 record because they don't play anyone.
Okay? So based on your earlier comments, are you saying that the reason Gonzaga underperformed in the NCAA tournament last year is that they never play anyone and weren't really that good, but if they perform well in the tournament, it's because they got to rest in January and February? If that's the case, what can they possibly do to impress you?Gonzaga unlike every power 5 school has the luxury of basketball mailing it in the months of January and February. They only get tested a few times a year in conference play.
They get solid players but I can’t imagine they’d have as much success playing K-State on the road then playing Kansas the same week.
You know 12-6 and winning a few Quad 1s in the non-conf would still be a 3 seed right?They have two losses in WCC already. They’d be looking at 6-9 losses in b12 play.
You know 12-6 and winning a few Quad 1s in the non-conf would still be a 3 seed right?
I think we went 11-7 one year with Fred and still got 3 seed.
I think you have me mistaken for someone else. My other comment was about how they don’t have a football team.Okay? So based on your earlier comments, are you saying that the reason Gonzaga underperformed in the NCAA tournament last year is that they never play anyone and weren't really that good, but if they perform well in the tournament, it's because they got to rest in January and February? If that's the case, what can they possibly do to impress you?
Yes, they would have more losses if they played in the Big 12. I don't think anyone would argue against that. But that doesn't mean they weren't ever good or deserving of the seeds they have gotten.
This isn't Gonzaga related but I saw some BYU fan on twitter state that ISU was the "only school that was against BYU joining the Big 12"
Which I don't think is true at all.... but I'm curious if anyone else saw/heard anything about that.
Sunday scheduling is my primary complaint.
The addition of BYU has already forced the 2024 Big 12 WBB tournament to start a day earlier than it would have (in order to have an off-day on Sunday, smack in the middle of the tournament).
Had a friend that taught at BYU for a while. Only thing open on Sunday are dining services for on campus students and the library is open every other Sunday for limited hours. The church will also open some buildings for tours on select holidays when they've got large crowds at the LDS Center around holidays.I don’t want to cave it but my thing is if the university is actually following through on ideals or living a hypocrisy where other people have to work for them on sundays.
I had some Mormon friends growing up who would just stay home and clean the house every Sunday and read. Actually respected it a lot, they didn’t require others to work for them on sundays. I had another Christian friend at same time who wouldn’t work on sundays but would go to movies, restaurants, shopping with all sorts of people working for him. Imho that is bs.