***2017 NCAA Wrestling Championships Thurs/Fri/Sat in St. Louis***

[isuska]

Surprised by some of the brackets. The WRNL site says that bonus points matter. the two highest scoring one seeds at their weights, by bonus and total team points added are Dean and Nolf, and no one used their #1 on them.

I used Nolf as my #1 seed. Last year, Dean only had 1 bonus point match at Nationals, a pin in round 2. I choose to use #2 Bo Nickal at 184 because I felt he was more likely to pin people.

But I agree, I thought more people would use Nolf, Retherford, or Snyder as their #1 seed.

 

[brett108]

Am I missing anybody?

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║ Place ║          Team           ║ Score ║
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║     1 ║ Fightin' HitHard58s     ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' Isuskas        ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' Buf87s         ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' SouthJerseyCys ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' Bthomps01s     ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' csteves        ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' Hgoats         ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' CY88CE11s      ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' PT26s          ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' BillyClones    ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' Abjuniors      ║     0 ║
║     1 ║ Fightin' GrappleCys     ║     0 ║
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Still 2 hours left if anybody else wants in.

http://www.widerightnattylite.com/2...-for-the-2017-ncaa-d1-wrestling-championships

Just tossed my name in the ring. Same user.

 

[brett108]

I used Nolf as my #1 seed. Last year, Dean only had 1 bonus point match at Nationals, a pin in round 2. I choose to use #2 Bo Nickal at 184 because I felt he was more likely to pin people.

But I agree, I thought more people would use Nolf, Retherford, or Snyder as their #1 seed.

Dean is the most dominant wrestler in the NCAA this year though. You think he will change that in the tournament? He could, but I doubt it.

I too went with Nolf as the #1. He and Kemmerer are head and shoulders above everyone else, and he has been dominant in his matches versus the #2.

 

[mdk2isu]

125: #6 Lizak
133: #5 Micic
141: #10 Meredith
149: #7 Thomsen
157: #1 Nolf
165: #8 Cottrell
174: #4 Epperly
184: #2 Nickal
197: #9 Rotert
HWT: #3 Walz

 

[enisthemenace]

Who is the consensus #1 pick? Snyder? Martinez?

When considering bonus points, I think it's Nolf. To me, Snyder or Dean are clear picks to win a title, but I also consider a couple of other things.

1. Snyder is a small HWT. That has nothing to do with his ability to plow through and take the title. May be more difficult for him to get TFs or falls. I could see him majoring his way to a title though
2. Dean is in one of the deepest weight classes, right there with 133 and 174 (Mark Hall the 5 seed?!?!?)

Nolf, unless I've missed something, has only been challenged, somewhat, by Kemerer, and he's dominated him twice.

 

[brett108]

When considering bonus points, I think it's Nolf. To me, Snyder or Dean are clear picks to win a title, but I also consider a couple of other things.

1. Snyder is a small HWT. That has nothing to do with his ability to plow through and take the title. May be more difficult for him to get TFs or falls. I could see him majoring his way to a title though
2. Dean is in one of the deepest weight classes, right there with 133 and 174 (Mark Hall the 5 seed?!?!?)

Nolf, unless I've missed something, has only been challenged, somewhat, by Kemerer, and he's dominated him twice.

Nolf is the surest thing, because there are two guys way better than the rest at that weight, and Nolf is way ahead of Kemerer at this point. Reminds me of Varner's senior year, where he was the best, and Brester was far better than anyone but him. And with all their head to heads you knew who to go after as the champion.

That being said Dean opened up hi style this year and has absolutely laid the wood to all comers, racking up more team points than any other wrestler. He continues that to a title and he should win the Hodge.

 

[Judoka]

I might do a little reworking before 11, Gardner being a sure couple of points is good and the scratch at 125 also mixes things up.

 

[brett108]

I went with Snyder because he's performed so consistently well at a high level. But yeah, Dean especially is pretty much a lock for 20 points at least.

Especially with no PD3....
But seriously, I cant fault the Snyder pick. he is probably the best wrestler in the world. I sometimes just worry about all the weight he is giving up, lack of mat time this year in the NCAA, and what happened when he wrestled a much physically stronger wrestler his freshman year( and Gadsen stuck him).

 

[Judoka]

Upon further thought, no. I think Meradith is going to make a run out of the 10 spot and score more than Gardner even with him being spotted 3 points.

 

[Judoka]

Have a somewhat pessimistic preview of today's matchups

 

[isuska]

 

[Judoka]

Saw on twitter that Palacio might have missed weight... nothing confirmed tho

Cornell's twitter has been active this morning and hasn't said anything about it.

 

[Primetime26]

it was a friends thats down there so not sure. would be crazy if true

 

[Judoka]

Hall on deck, mat 6.

 

[enisthemenace]

Team: PT26

125: #8 Piccininni
133: #13 Hall
141: #9 McCrystal
149: #5 Sorensen
157: #4 Berger
165: #6 Lewis
174: #7 Crutchmer
184: #2 Nickal
197: #3 Moore
285: #1 Snyder

This looks good early. Piccininni with an early fall.

 

[HGoat]

Wolfe is an 8 seed. Did you mean Rotert?

Rotert, my bad!

 

[Judoka]

Peters of UNI got pinned. I wasn't watching that mat so I didn't see how it happened.

 

[Judoka]

And Hall gives up an early TD because of course Hall gives up an early TD.

 

[enisthemenace]

Hall is hurt. Knee.

 

[Judoka]

And he's taking injury time. Hopefully just a cramp.