I have a pretty high tolerance for respectful disagreement. 2-4 is debatable in my eyes, and I have my perspective.
After three conference games, here's a shot at power ranking ...
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K-state has good resume of wins. I think the conference is in tiers
- Kansas (1)
- Kansas State (2)
- Texas (4)
- Iowa State (3)
- TCU (5)
- Baylor (8)
- Oklahoma (7)
- Oklahoma State (6)
- West Virginia (9)
- Texas Tech (10)
THOUGHTS: Kansas stays atop the rankings after two more close wins. Despite them getting competition from basically everyone they play, the end result is still the same - wins! That's what matters the most, and the Jayhawks are doing it better than anyone in the league. They have the most Quad One wins AND the most Quad Two wins of anyone in the Big 12.
The next tier goes No. 2 through No. 4. I had some debate about some of this because, according ot the NET, Iowa State should be No. 2. But it's Texas right behind them (one spot) with more Quad One wins, and Kansas State three spots behind the (No. 14) and they're 4-1 in Quad One games, which is better than the Cyclones (4-3).
I was really torn on how to put this group, but just know they are VERY close. I stuck with Kansas State at No. 2 since they did go to Texas and beat the Longhorns. So I feel like they must stay ahead of Texas for now.
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1 - KU
2 - ISU/KSU/UT/TCU
2.5 - BU
3 - OU/OSU/WV/TT
I'd rank it based on a combination of resume and predictive..
1) KU
2) ISU
3) KSU
4) TCU
5) UT - IN the 40's on Torvik since Beard was fired
6) BU - I think they flip with UT in a week
7) OU
8) OSU
9) WV
10) TT
Let's see, ISU is ranked higher in AP, Coaches, NET, Kenpom, BPI, Torvik. ISU had a much better week last week and the most directly comparable game, @TCU, was a win for ISU and a blowout loss for KSU. Plus the whole reasoning for Surly ranking KSU ahead of ISU, 3 Q1 losses for ISU vs 1 Q1 loss for KSU, completely ignores the fact that KSU has by far the worst loss between the 2 against Butler, which is a Q2 loss. It's a BS troll job.
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I haven’t been all that impressed with Texas with or without Beard. They have talent but they have too many guys that need to dominate the ball on offense. Carr is going to shoot as many times as he can and Allen’s game is clear out and let him iso. Hunter is hit or miss but has a tendency to get lost with the other volume shooters on the roster. Their bigs are athletic but nothing spectacular. Just a weird team.
Maybe I’m biased because I hate Carr’s game. Never been a fan of a guy that just chucks it up from anywhere as often as he wants.
Maybe I’m biased because I hate Carr’s game. Never been a fan of a guy that just chucks it up from anywhere as often as he wants.
I see it as playful intra-rival banter, homerism, or wrong take at worst. I don't take it too seriously. Definitely not going to get bent out of shape over it. Why does that make me an idiot?
that wasn’t Surly’s ranking, he just posted the ranking from that 247 article.
Makes you wonder why they’re here 24/7. Are they ridiculed on KSU boards? So strange they live on this board.
Reading comp/recall not too great round these parts unless like=love.
What value does ^ this add? I've never seen anything hostile, mean spirited or unkind from Surly but have from plenty ISU fans on this site.
Agree, but thus far they've pulled out wins in those games save KSU that I've not been impressed with.
Fair point. Not Surlys rankings, but still making sure to post something that shows K-State ranked above ISU which is typical troll tactic used by Surly.
But starting a completely new thread about how you like Surly adds a ton of value. Cool story.
About as much as your post. None. But you go, Dave...tell us how you know better than those with more experience and contacts on the matter.
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Did you see the poll? Affable, kind rival school fans. Genuinely curious about that.
Im not saying i know better. Sharing ny perspective and asking geberal cobference foe interaction. Do ppl hate all conf fans? That was my post with a disclaimer that I don't hate, but like that particular fan.
Answers to specific questions of "why such hostility" have been weak at best.
If they're breaking the comm guidelines or being beyond obnoxious after multiple warnings, they should be banned.
Your poll really had nothing to do with Surly specifically despite the thread title suggesting otherwise.
How dare CF put Iowa State ahead of KSU.
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