Big 12 Refs, Man... Technicals Out of Hand

[TXCyclones]

SIAP, but I hadn't seen this previously. Two technical fouls, one at each end, between KSU and BU following dunks. If this sh*t is what our conference is devolving into I want out. (and then to think we've only had a total of FOUR free throws combined against OU... something is broken in officiating)

 

[ClonesInDallas]

They're garbage. Absolute garbage. And it doesn't just extend to basketball. This may have been the worst officiated season of Big 12 football I've ever seen. It's time for this conference to put more money into its officiating budget.

 

[JM4CY]

They're garbage. Absolute garbage. And it doesn't just extend to basketball. This may have been the worst officiated season of Big 12 football I've ever seen. It's time for this conference to put more money into its officiating budget.

Nah. They’re top notch.

Spoiler: Case and Point

 

[3TrueFans]

SIAP, but I hadn't seen this previously. Two technical fouls, one at each end, between KSU and BU following dunks. If this sh*t is what our conference is devolving into I want out. (and then to think we've only had a total of FOUR free throws combined against OU... something is broken in officiating)

I agree with you, but those were two of the weakest ******* dunks, why was either player doing anything afterwards? They deserve techs for trying to showboat after mediocre dunks.

 

[JP4CY]

This one cut deep:

 

[Jayshellberg]

Xavier Hutchinson says hello.

 

[chadly82]

This clip was absolutely horrific

 

[ca4cy]

I agree with you, but those were two of the weakest ******* dunks, why was either player doing anything afterwards? They deserve techs for trying to showboat after mediocre dunks.

I agree with this, and it's not a fun hater, "get off my lawn" thing. I don't understand why guys have to run their mouth so much. Hey, you blocked a shot. That's awesome but maybe work on not getting owned by your guy the previous 4 trips down the floor? Cool, you dunked one, but could we not miss the 5 shots before that? A little jaw jacking is natural but if it's all you do it kind of wears thin.

And yes, officiating is terrible and I don't know what the fix is going to be. Those calls were absolute garbage. They're already short on numbers so I don't know if adding a 4th guy on the floor is doable, and if it even makes it better. Part of it is common sense rules as well. The missed goaltending at KU, for example, is fixable. Just make it reviewable either way, not just if it's called. These guys are overinterpreting rules that have been put in over the years. Somewhere along the line you have to let the players play. Noting in my first paragraph applies to this clip. I'll guarantee nobody from KState or Baylor had their feelings hurt by anything that was said/done after those dunks.

 

[theshadow]

SIAP, but I hadn't seen this previously. Two technical fouls, one at each end, between KSU and BU following dunks. If this sh*t is what our conference is devolving into I want out. (and then to think we've only had a total of FOUR free throws combined against OU... something is broken in officiating)

LOL. That clown is trying to "hot take" something he can't even see or hear.

 

[cyclones500]

This one cut deep:

That no-call is even more obvious than I remembered...

 

[HFCS]

SIAP, but I hadn't seen this previously. Two technical fouls, one at each end, between KSU and BU following dunks. If this sh*t is what our conference is devolving into I want out. (and then to think we've only had a total of FOUR free throws combined against OU... something is broken in officiating)

We had ONE ft vs OU in two games when the game was over in the final few minutes. Glad I’m not the only one who can see how absurd that is.

We had no shooting fouls vs them. I would consider us the more aggressive team for about 30 minutes of both games.

 

[ISUTex]

Gambling. Cough, Cough. What?

 

[Humanjukebox]

Looks like it was the same official who called both T's. Anyone know who it is? May need it for future reference, or if there is a pattern with the guy.

Also looks like the other two officials are confused about the whistle both times.

 

[MushroomPinball]

Whomever it is I'm sure he'll be calling a potential Big 12 tournament game between Iowa State and Kansas.

 

[JP4CY]

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article258621978.html

 

[Die4Cy]

Referees have lost the thread.

I think they are overtrained--or perhaps over-evaluated--especially when it comes to the issues the NCAA wants them to "emphasize" from year to year.

You need to know the rules, know how to get in position to make proper calls, and facilitate the play of the game, ESPECIALLY when it comes to big moments. That's it.

There's so much data now, they get graded play by play and they probably feel like they are constantly under a microscope. This can lead to worse outcomes.

 

[Iastfan112]

We had ONE ft vs OU in two games when the game was over in the final few minutes. Glad I’m not the only one who can see how absurd that is.

We had no shooting fouls vs them. I would consider us the more aggressive team for about 30 minutes of both games.

I'd have to go watch the first game to check that one(pass) but in this last outing:

1. They were letting the guys play, I'm pretty sure ISU had less fouls overall.
2. OU wasn't playing anything resembling a tight, harassing defense that tends to draw fouls.

 

[Clonedogg]

There is no such thing as BIG 12 refs in basketball, no conference has their own refs in basketball.

 

[NWICY]

SIAP, but I hadn't seen this previously. Two technical fouls, one at each end, between KSU and BU following dunks. If this sh*t is what our conference is devolving into I want out. (and then to think we've only had a total of FOUR free throws combined against OU... something is broken in officiating)

Those were both unnecessary Ts in my opinion.

 

[FerShizzle]

There is no such thing as BIG 12 refs in basketball, no conference has their own refs in basketball.

This x 1000.

They work regionally.