Bracketology 2024

[Cyhig]

Those are seeded first, but they follow the same principles for 5-16, similarly I would expect Gonzaga to be in Spokane or BYU in SLC if they can get matched up with the respective seeds

I don’t believe a 7 seed is sent to a site based on proximity. It’s only for the top 4 seeds of each bracket (top 16 overall)

“National Seeds
Before any games get underway, it first begins with the seeding. The top 16 teams of the tournament are assigned what is called a “national seed”. This helps shape the tournament and designate who is playing who, and where they are playing upon advancing to the next round. Each team that is assigned a national seed is granted hosting rights for the regionals round.”

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[1UNI2ISU]

I don’t believe a 7 seed is sent to a site based on proximity. It’s only for the top 4 seeds of each bracket (top 16 overall)

“National Seeds
Before any games get underway, it first begins with the seeding. The top 16 teams of the tournament are assigned what is called a “national seed”. This helps shape the tournament and designate who is playing who, and where they are playing upon advancing to the next round. Each team that is assigned a national seed is granted hosting rights for the regionals round.”

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They are assuming all other principles are satisfied.

That's how Auburn got Birmingham. Saves money on travel for the NCAA and keeps teams from losing time traveling if possible.

 

[Pharmacy99]

I do not want us to get a one seed. I want this team to play angry.

The coward side of me don’t want #1 seed as I want to avoid potential embarrassing loss against #16 seed or #8/9 seed. But this is a loser’s mentality. To be an elite, one has to take potential risks as well.

 

[DSMCy]

I don’t believe a 7 seed is sent to a site based on proximity. It’s only for the top 4 seeds of each bracket (top 16 overall)

“National Seeds
Before any games get underway, it first begins with the seeding. The top 16 teams of the tournament are assigned what is called a “national seed”. This helps shape the tournament and designate who is playing who, and where they are playing upon advancing to the next round. Each team that is assigned a national seed is granted hosting rights for the regionals round.”

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That is the college baseball rules

 

[Cyhig]

They are assuming all other principles are satisfied.

That's how Auburn got Birmingham. Saves money on travel for the NCAA and keeps teams from losing time traveling if possible.

Correct. But such instances are the exceptions rather than the norm. I was correcting someone trying to say teams seeded 5-16 are placed at regional sites based on their proximity.

 

[madguy30]

Just show a replay of the Pitt game last year. They have motivation

It doesn't seem like they dwell on such things but the KSU game would be a good reminder to what happens if the ball isn't shared or managed.

He was pissed in the post game that day but I wonder if he also loved having that kind of pivot point for reference.

 

[Cyhig]

That is the college baseball rules

Same rules apply for basketball though

 

[cyclones500]

That was my reference to principles, but having only played BYU twice this season couldn't we by rule meet in the sweet 16 if it had to happen?

Yes.

 

[mctallerton]

I don’t believe a 7 seed is sent to a site based on proximity. It’s only for the top 4 seeds of each bracket (top 16 overall)

“National Seeds
Before any games get underway, it first begins with the seeding. The top 16 teams of the tournament are assigned what is called a “national seed”. This helps shape the tournament and designate who is playing who, and where they are playing upon advancing to the next round. Each team that is assigned a national seed is granted hosting rights for the regionals round.”

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I guess we will see today, what I have read from the NCAA site and from bracketologists is it can absolutely happen. I think it will be moot in regards to Nebby though, I think they will be a 8 seed and we will be a 2. The only reason I've seen to keep them on the 7 is the bid stealers are pushing the bubble down.

 

[AuH2O]

The Valley has historically been 7th-9th for the past 20 years. This year it finished 9th, just a fraction behind the A10.

It's every bit the same league it's always been even if the names have changed.

I don’t know, if Indiana St doesn’t get in it’s going to pushing a decade with one multi-bid year. In the early 2000s it was a 2-4 bid league. Even leading it up to the current lineup it was more often than not a 2 bid league.

It is still ranked similarly but the ceiling for the league in terms of bids and seeds those bids get is significantly lower. I do think it can and should be a pretty consistent 2 bid league, it had a good stretch of being really damn good.

 

[twincyties]

Also throw in the committee member saying their was 3 teams still in play for the last 1 seed yesterday morning on CBS. I think a lot of people were surprised by that and realized ISU probably has to be one of the 3 teams.

I think they meant it was UNC, Tennessee (because of SEC hard on) and Arizona.

 

[mctallerton]

They are assuming all other principles are satisfied.

That's how Auburn got Birmingham. Saves money on travel for the NCAA and keeps teams from losing time traveling if possible.

This is actually a very overlooked point, the NCAA charters flights (sun country I believe or at least they have had the contract the last few years) for all of the teams.

 

[marothisu]

I know this is not popular, but I think they’re all overreacting to the conference tournaments. The committee has routinely ignored the results of the tournaments and seeded based more heavily on the regular season. So ISU will probably be a 2 seed

Yes most years this is true as things aren't too out of the norm. Yesterday we had a team (UNC) who recently moved to the 1 line lose to a team who wasn't going to even make the tournament. Then we had a solid 2 seed (ISU) beat the ever living **** out of the #1 team in the country for the largest loss by a #1 team in decades.

You think none of this won't matter? Maybe ISU continues to be a 2, but I can guarantee there will at least be discussion.

 

[Cyforce]

Seems many of the updated projections are still sending us to Boston. I can live with UNC getting the final 1 seed but how are we not getting our geographically favored region. Only way that should happen is if Tennessee or Marquette are still ahead of us.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I don’t know, if Indiana St doesn’t get in it’s going to pushing a decade with one multi-bid year. In the early 2000s it was a 2-4 bid league. Even leading it up to the current lineup it was more often than not a 2 bid league.

It is still ranked similarly but the ceiling for the league in terms of bids and seeds those bids get is significantly lower. I do think it can and should be a pretty consistent 2 bid league, it had a good stretch of being really damn good.

The game changed, the league didn't.

The A10 and AAC should have been 1 bid leagues as well. We'll see what the inevitable expansion and reforming of autobids does.

 

[cyclones500]

Interesting NET details with ISU-UNC comparison. Both teams have same combined record in Q1/Q2 (16-7) and Q3/Q4 (11-0).

NC has better win% vs. Q1, ISU better vs Q2; NC has more wins in Q3, fewer Q4 games (both are unbeaten in Q3 & Q4).

I don't know specifically how much factor some of that is, just found it intriguing.

 

[MeanDean]

I don’t know, if Indiana St doesn’t get in it’s going to pushing a decade with one multi-bid year. In the early 2000s it was a 2-4 bid league. Even leading it up to the current lineup it was more often than not a 2 bid league.

It is still ranked similarly but the ceiling for the league in terms of bids and seeds those bids get is significantly lower. I do think it can and should be a pretty consistent 2 bid league, it had a good stretch of being really damn good.

The other factor that most don't think about. Instead of being the Big 8 with 8 teams, it's now the Big XII with 14 (soon to be 16) teams. SEC, B1G, ACC and BigEast have similarly grown. Some of that is major conference musical chairs, but also quite a bit of promoting from MidMajors. With a larger pool of P6 teams vying for spots there are fewer spots for the Mid majors. The conference may still be 9 or 10 in strength, but there are now a lot more teams in those conferences above them.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

This is actually a very overlooked point, the NCAA charters flights (sun country I believe or at least they have had the contract the last few years) for all of the teams.

Shorts Travel in Waterloo actually schedules all travel. It's an insane task to get 134 teams to sites in 2 days.

 

[Cyowa 14]

I think they meant it was UNC, Tennessee (because of SEC hard on) and Arizona.

While you could be right I refuse to believe it was Arizona. Losses to Stanford, Oregon State, and USC has to mean something

 

[cyfan92]

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Linardi and Palm are bad at placing teams on seed lines, they usually get all teams in the field though. But most everyone who's dialed into this process can field 68. Seeding them separates men from boys