I don't think the best response to the statement "Having more fans in the arena is an advantage" is saying "But sometimes home teams lose."
BRACKETS: ISU mostly on the 6-line heading into tournament week
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I don't think the best response to the statement "Having more fans in the arena is an advantage" is saying "But sometimes home teams lose."
That makes more sense - Big 12 Tournament has ended on Saturdays for years now. Was quickly headed to Whiskey Tango Foxtrot territory.
Even if we lose Thursday I highly doubt we move out of the 6 seed. There is much more to gain from playing another top 50 RPI opponent. If we do win we are still a six seed with an outside chance at a five seed. It is much more likely for Butler to fall off the three line then it is for us to fall off the six line.
"The problem with Bracket Matrix is that a lot of the brackets it is averaging are total crap."
There certainly is some truth to that. But everyone should be advised, one Matrix bracket comes from Cyclone Fanatic, Projection Sunday (P-Sun), officially a member last season ... Cy$ can attest, our accuracy was high the first go-round.
In my view, dropping from 6 to 7 is likely only if ISU loses to OSU, then having enough teams near that line to leap-frog. If SMC happens to beat Gonzaga in WCC final, Gaels could climb to 6.
Creighton might have to win more than one game in Big East tournament to avoid a 7 seed. Most of the remaining teams vying for the position are Big Ten (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maryland) and any of those would need at least an additional meaningful win.
Dayton is in 8 range and couldn't rise above a 7 even with A-10 regular-season/tournament combo. South Carolina could get to a 6 by winning SEC tournament, maybe. AAC teams already are in 5/6 range, they're no threat for Iowa State dropping.
I would say we are definitely a 6 seed right now and a win over Okie State would solidify our 6 seed. Finishing in 4th gave us a horrible draw in the conference tourney as we would likely be facing Kansas if we beat Okie State. Here is my guess on all the possible outcomes:
Lose to Okie State - 6 seed still likely, maybe a 7 seed
Beat Okie State and lose to Kansas - 6 seed
Beat Kansas and lose in the championship - 5 seed
Beat Baylor or WVU in the championship - 4 seed
Beat anybody other than Baylor or WVU in the championship - 5 seed
Just my $0.02, but I'm no bracket maker and they always seed a few schools ridiculously high or low at times.
Lose to Okie State - 6 seed still likely, maybe a 7 seed
Beat Okie State and lose to Kansas - 6 seed
Beat Kansas and lose in the championship - 5 seed
Beat Baylor or WVU in the championship - 4 seed
Beat anybody other than Baylor or WVU in the championship - 5 seed
Just my $0.02, but I'm no bracket maker and they always seed a few schools ridiculously high or low at times.
I agree with this. Ill only add to get the 4 seed, we would prob need some teams currently projected in the 4-5 range to have early exits this week, and likewise, to fall to the 7 seed, you would need to have some teams currently projected in the 7-8 range to have a good week.
IMO, we need to win Thursday in order to keep that 6 seed. I feel like losing that game will "give" our 6 seed to OSU. Or...
I think the bracketologists have overvalued OSU due to their hot streak and their own tendencies to put out a new bracket constantly. I think we're a 6 regardless. Possible 5 if we also beat KU.
If we beat the AP #27 and #1 team this week, we should absolutely move to a 5 seed.
