Expansion candidates that made the cut in 2016
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We were having a legitimate conversation about ISU and the future of college athletics till this one. Now you can just **** off.
So it’s not guaranteed then? Got it
Do you think that since espn’s lawyers can get out of paying for secretly negotiating with ou and ut, they can not include the big 12 in any playoff expansion scenario?
do you think the big 10 will be willing to sacrifice a playoff bid for Wisconsin or Iowa so BYU or Cincinnati can get a bid in their place?
SIAP:
"Frank the Tank" is a fun read for all things conference realignment. He has a post today about different strategies the Big 12 may employ moving forward
frankthetank.org
"Frank the Tank" is a fun read for all things conference realignment. He has a post today about different strategies the Big 12 may employ moving forward
Where in the World is Carmen San Diego State? Mapping Out Big 12 Expansion Strategies
Last week, the Pac-12 announced that it was not seeking any expansion at this time in the wake of its announced Big Paclantic Alliance with the Big Ten and ACC. While some fans of schools remaining…
frankthetank.org
You can't be serious. You would rather be Cincinnati in the G5 than Missouri in SEC, making a fist full of dimes rather than $50 million cash? Come on, man.
Can't disagree that ISU is on the lower end of the donation and ticket price spectrum. But the reality is ISU's graduate base historically hasn't lent itself to a lot of big $ donor. Just think of the VEISHEA acronym. Plus no law or med school at ISU.
I would expect this is why Jamie pushed for the Entertainment District and convention facilities in the athletic complex area. Making money for the athletic department from non-traditional revenue streams.
It would have been tough to justify USF with a 4 team playoff. But if the playoff gets expanded to 8 or 12 teams, then a USF or Cincinnati or Boise probably had a place in a playoff.
I think everyone agrees that placement of ISU in the Big10, SEC, Pac12 or ACC is preferred.
But if that doesn't happen- then leadership (Presidents & AD's) need to create the best possible landing spot for the Cyclones. That won't be an easy decision and Presidents will need to be future looking to CREATE the best landing spot long-term. That might mean some short term compromises.
I am curious how we will stack up this year. From everything I’ve heard, donations are up significantly, and with season tickets popping up $100 and the highest season tickets sales out there; we know that is up.
SIAP:
"Frank the Tank" is a fun read for all things conference realignment. He has a post today about different strategies the Big 12 may employ moving forward
Where in the World is Carmen San Diego State? Mapping Out Big 12 Expansion Strategies
Last week, the Pac-12 announced that it was not seeking any expansion at this time in the wake of its announced Big Paclantic Alliance with the Big Ten and ACC. While some fans of schools remaining…
Some of these ideas are worse than others but it’s a good rundown of the realistic outcomes. Tech/Baylor/TCU not wanting Houston makes sense given everything, and I could see that as the reason why Memphis or USF gets spot #12 with BYU, UCF, Cincinnati. USF is actually a power conference level university academically; Memphis is not, but then again UCF is not exactly an academic powerhouse.
I’d rather be Cincy the last 5 years than Missouri. The future is a little harder, but likely the case then too. Being disappointed that a you didn’t make the playoffs >sec basement or wherever MU finished
SIAP:
"Frank the Tank" is a fun read for all things conference realignment. He has a post today about different strategies the Big 12 may employ moving forward
Where in the World is Carmen San Diego State? Mapping Out Big 12 Expansion Strategies
Last week, the Pac-12 announced that it was not seeking any expansion at this time in the wake of its announced Big Paclantic Alliance with the Big Ten and ACC. While some fans of schools remaining…
Really hope that the service academies are getting consideration. Would be great additions for academics and add some historic rivalry games. Would go to 14 with them, BYU, CSU, and New Mexico. Conference would have somewhat decent geographic coherence, good academics, and a chance to solidify and grow in growing states particularly Colorado and Utah.
Really do not want city schools (except maybe Cincinnati), or any directional schools. UCF, Boise for instance make no sense geographically among other considerations.
BYU - eh, ok but football only
UCF - yup!
Cincinnati - yup!
Houston - only if we can drop the "school" in Wacko
Boise State - only if they get rid of the smurf turf, football only
SMU - no, got enough Texas schools
Memphis - originally a yup, not so sure now, maybe if FedEx can actually find my place and deliver my **** on time
"Football only" does have a negative vibe to it, just like "city" universities like Houston, Cincinnati and "directional" universities like Central Florida, alas this is the current world we live in.
The only "football only" idea I've seen and liked was Boise State as football only paired with Gonzaga for everything else. I'm not sure how bad the optics are, but BSU in FB and Zags in BB certainly caught my attention.
The only "football only" idea I've seen and liked was Boise State as football only paired with Gonzaga for everything else. I'm not sure how bad the optics are, but BSU in FB and Zags in BB certainly caught my attention.
The size of the football stadium is a good measure of football interest.
The remaining Big 8 have stadiums: 61,500 (ISU), 60,000 (OkSt), 60,000 (TT), 60,000 (WVa), 50,000 (KSt), 50,000 (TCU), 50,000 (Baylor), and 47,000 (KU). We currently have four schools at about 60,000, and four schools at about 50,000. (This also helps explain the problem with our last big metro school KU.)
Suggested new member stadiums: 77,200 (Houston), 63,470 (BYU), 45,301(Central Florida), and 40,000 (Cincinnati).
The two western schools match our four highest capacity schools, but the two eastern colleges have smaller stadiums than our smallest, so why add them?
Others could have included Louisville (61,000) etc.
FYI Boisie State is 36,387. UNLV is the new pro stadium, but is one more timezone west.
The remaining Big 8 have stadiums: 61,500 (ISU), 60,000 (OkSt), 60,000 (TT), 60,000 (WVa), 50,000 (KSt), 50,000 (TCU), 50,000 (Baylor), and 47,000 (KU). We currently have four schools at about 60,000, and four schools at about 50,000. (This also helps explain the problem with our last big metro school KU.)
Suggested new member stadiums: 77,200 (Houston), 63,470 (BYU), 45,301(Central Florida), and 40,000 (Cincinnati).
The two western schools match our four highest capacity schools, but the two eastern colleges have smaller stadiums than our smallest, so why add them?
Others could have included Louisville (61,000) etc.
FYI Boisie State is 36,387. UNLV is the new pro stadium, but is one more timezone west.
Is it just my imagination, perhaps wake and bake, but is this post in all expansion threads?
