Hard to not like the draw for ISU here

mynameisjonas

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Right. One year I took Joe’s bracket and placed it beside the actual official bracket. I’ll be damned that Joe wasn’t too far off!!
Yeah I remember that, he was right on the money predicting your Hawkeyes in the play in game.
 

EvilBetty

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Certainly possible - It's going to be very close to a pick'em.
home teams get what, 3pts for oddsmakers? surely Ku, ISU, KSU get a point or two playing in KC for big 12 tourney right? or do odds makers not factor that in? I think the spread in WACO was only 7pts or so and that was following the news of CG being kicked off the team.
 

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home teams get what, 3pts for oddsmakers? surely Ku, ISU, KSU get a point or two playing in KC for big 12 tourney right? or do odds makers not factor that in? I think the spread in WACO was only 7pts or so and that was following the news of CG being kicked off the team.
Over the past 17 years ISU is 5-12 in 1st round Big 12 Tournament games. I doubt the oddsmakers will be giving us any points for the venue on Thursday.

The spread will be closer because we moved up 6 spots in Kenpom and it is neutral instead of a road game.
 

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Over the past 17 years ISU is 5-12 in 1st round Big 12 Tournament games. I doubt the oddsmakers will be giving us any points for the venue on Thursday.

The spread will be closer because we moved up 6 spots in Kenpom and it is neutral instead of a road game.

There are a lot of really bad basketball teams in that 17 year window.
 

Clyde4cy

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There are a lot of really bad basketball teams in that 17 year window.
For sure. The fact remains that ISU doesn’t perform better in the 1st round than expected. The Hilton South effect occurs after the 1st round where we are a combined 8-1 in Big 12 tournament games during that period. ISU is actually 6-0 in conference championship games since 1996 as well.
 
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No sweat. Harlem Globetrotters beat the Generals 2,495 times in a row.
I operated the scoreboard for a Globetrotters game. I know what shenanigans go on with scorekeeping in those games... As stringent as the Guinness Book of World Records people are, I am still incredulous that they included that bogus stat in their records.
 
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We are definitely a formidable pick. Say we cut down the nets in K.C. Will that bring us to that 3 seed line? And say possible knock down K-State. I believe so..
 

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I realize playing 3 games in 3 days is pretty wearing but at what other time of the season do teams get to play on Saturday and not again until Thursday or even Friday?

I think the wear and tear of the conference tournament is real but any affect on the NCAA tournament is often overblown given the four or five days of rest that follow the conference tourney.
 

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Bubble Fun

TEAM A
17-14 - NET 43 - NET SOS 8
Q1 6-11
Q2 3-2
Q3 3-1
Q4 5-0

TEAM B
17-14 - NET 54 - NET SOS 21
Q1 3-11
Q2 5-2
Q3 5-0
Q4 4-1

TEAM C
16-15 - NET 55 - NET SOS 15
Q1 5-12
Q2 0-3
Q3 2-0
Q4 9-0

TEAM D
19-12 - NET 56 - NET SOS 33
Q1 5-6
Q2 4-5
Q3 4-1
Q4 6-0

Guess which team Lunardi has in his last four byes, first four out, next four out and not even making his list.

A - Okie State - First Four Out (#69)
B - Michigan - Next Four Out (#73)
C - Texas Tech - Not listed (>76)
D - Penn State - Last Four Byes (#60)
 

EvilBetty

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Over the past 17 years ISU is 5-12 in 1st round Big 12 Tournament games. I doubt the oddsmakers will be giving us any points for the venue on Thursday.

The spread will be closer because we moved up 6 spots in Kenpom and it is neutral instead of a road game.
Isu has also won the big 12 tourney 4 of the past 8 years. 14, 15, 17, 19.

Middle of the pack all time in win %. 5th out of current teams
 
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Bubble Fun

TEAM A
17-14 - NET 43 - NET SOS 8
Q1 6-11
Q2 3-2
Q3 3-1
Q4 5-0

TEAM B
17-14 - NET 54 - NET SOS 21
Q1 3-11
Q2 5-2
Q3 5-0
Q4 4-1

TEAM C
16-15 - NET 55 - NET SOS 15
Q1 5-12
Q2 0-3
Q3 2-0
Q4 9-0

TEAM D
19-12 - NET 56 - NET SOS 33
Q1 5-6
Q2 4-5
Q3 4-1
Q4 6-0

Guess which team Lunardi has in his last four byes, first four out, next four out and not even making his list.

A - Okie State - First Four Out (#69)
B - Michigan - Next Four Out (#73)
C - Texas Tech - Not listed (>76)
D - Penn State - Last Four Byes (#60)
Good info, I will say it again, I am amazed at the love the B10 gets basically in all the polls, considering that everyone agrees the B12 is the better league. Really seems simple, teams like Okie State and TT are not making the tournament but teams with a worse NET in a league not rated as high are.
 
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